What is the General Consensus?

[Nedkel]

Vengeance is the best defensive CD in the game. I say this as a DRK/WAR main, I'd prefer WAR's kit much over TBN and can survive busters much easier on WAR as I simply have more options. Survivability is much higher. Inner Beast also gives you a defensive buff as well. Being able to take hits because you have the HP to do so is far more valuable than simply mitigating it, especially when Warrior has the ability to heal themselves up reliably.

Still it has 120 sec cooldown aaand damaging part of the ability triggers only for physical attacks, which is kinda disappointing on the raids/trials where the boss spends more time shooting aoe abilities than actually hitting you with hand.

More options doesnt make it easier to manage the busters.
15 sec shield is over all the best def ability in the game and i am happy to keep it, than having shake it of, raw intuition and 2 heals.
As a DRK i could heal myself without losing any DPS with souleater + DA, warrior need to sacrifice a lot in order to do that with his GCD's, and those 2 heals he posses are kinda meh in therm of healing per second, much worse than clemency, but they are on regular CD so they are better that way than nothing.

DRK is all around designed for end game content, where warrior and pally are just better dungeon running tanks in terms of mitigation, but that doesnt mean a lot anyway, so they are given some support utilities to not be feel inferior in them.

[Luin]

Still it has 120 sec cooldown aaand damaging part of the ability triggers only for physical attacks, which is kinda disappointing on the raids/trials where the boss spends more time shooting aoe abilities than actually hitting you with hand.

More options doesnt make it easier to manage the busters.
15 sec shield is over all the best def ability in the game and i am happy to keep it, than having shake it of, raw intuition and 2 heals.
As a DRK i could heal myself without losing any DPS with souleater + DA, warrior need to sacrifice a lot in order to do that with his GCD's, and those 2 heals he posses are kinda meh in therm of healing per second, much worse than clemency, but they are on regular CD so they are better that way than nothing.

DRK is all around designed for end game content, where warrior and pally are just better dungeon running tanks in terms of mitigation, but that doesnt mean a lot anyway, so they are given some support utilities to not be feel inferior in them.

That is nonsense.
A boss isn't going to use a tankbuster every 15 seconds. You don't need a 15s CD to handle a tankbuster.
How to recognize a tankbuster: Can you read? Is the name of the skill a tankbuster? There, you recognized all of the game's threatening tankbusters.

What will happen every 15 seconds? Mechanics. Mechanics that affect the entire party. Mechanics that The Blackest Night does literally nothing against.

As for healing, Inner Beast. It's like you don't even read the tooltips. Or are you seriously trying to say that a ~5k heal over 3gcd is better than Warrior which has that same exact heal, but also with Inner Beast for a large burst heal, and a Rampart on top of it, and they can keep near 100% uptime on it?

But that's a nonexistent situation, because Warrior's cooldowns are better and it can just mitigate that damage. I love how you list Raw Intuition, and not Thrill of Battle. Not Inner Beast, not Holmgang (have fun in o5, drk), not Equilibrium. Not even Vengeance, which is a straight upgrade over Shadow Wall. Which, by the way, is your *only* Cooldown. Unless you decide you want to count Dark Mind.

Also, you're complaining about Vengeance's damage being underwhelming?
Shadow Wall doesnt have that damage. Why are you complaining about literally free damage? The only cooldown Dark Knight has besides TBN, Warrior has an exact copy of, but better.

If you like Dark Knight that's fine. I like Dark Knight. But posting blatantly wrong information will not make Dark Knight better.

[Shurrikhan]

That is nonsense.
A boss isn't going to use a tankbuster every 15 seconds. You don't need a 15s CD to handle a tankbuster.
How to recognize a tankbuster: Can you read? Is the name of the skill a tankbuster? There, you recognized all of the game's threatening tankbusters.

What will happen every 15 seconds? Mechanics. Mechanics that affect the entire party. Mechanics that The Blackest Night does literally nothing against.

But TBN isn't limited to its defensive value. It also offers you a GCD option (Bloodspiller) that deals 100 potency more than your second strongest option, only 40 potency short of DA on Souleater (with this gap decreased when comparing crits, especially if DAing Bloodspiller as well). As long as it's fully consumed, it still gives nearly the same potency as Dark Arts, but with a free shield atop it.

Heck, if you consider them the GCDs spent in terms of their place in or out of their combo chains, the potency increase can actually be as high as 160, a 20 potency advantage over a simple DA-SS or DA-SE.

[Nedkel]

That is nonsense.
A boss isn't going to use a tankbuster every 15 seconds. You don't need a 15s CD to handle a tankbuster.
How to recognize a tankbuster: Can you read? Is the name of the skill a tankbuster? There, you recognized all of the game's threatening tankbusters.

What will happen every 15 seconds? Mechanics. Mechanics that affect the entire party. Mechanics that The Blackest Night does literally nothing against.

As for healing, Inner Beast. It's like you don't even read the tooltips. Or are you seriously trying to say that a ~5k heal over 3gcd is better than Warrior which has that same exact heal, but also with Inner Beast for a large burst heal, and a Rampart on top of it, and they can keep near 100% uptime on it?

But that's a nonexistent situation, because Warrior's cooldowns are better and it can just mitigate that damage. I love how you list Raw Intuition, and not Thrill of Battle. Not Inner Beast, not Holmgang (have fun in o5, drk), not Equilibrium. Not even Vengeance, which is a straight upgrade over Shadow Wall. Which, by the way, is your *only* Cooldown. Unless you decide you want to count Dark Mind.

Also, you're complaining about Vengeance's damage being underwhelming?
Shadow Wall doesnt have that damage. Why are you complaining about literally free damage? The only cooldown Dark Knight has besides TBN, Warrior has an exact copy of, but better.

If you like Dark Knight that's fine. I like Dark Knight. But posting blatantly wrong information will not make Dark Knight better.

Well, some of the bosses does hit a lot, like deltascape 4.0 if i remember.

Tank buster doesnt happen every 15 seconds, but any other attacks does. You could use in in between the tank busters.
Still its just a reliable 1 key to use all the time instead of 20 others, and this is a good one since it does not cost you any dps, you are sacrificing anything with it.
And still you have the Dark mind 30% damage reduction on 60 sec cooldown, there is no other cd that time effective, its just cost some mp.
Shadow wall + roles are more than enough to tank, why would you need more in this case? You dont need more on a DRK.
He has an ability to mix TBN with a mitigation CD, that makes it even stronger.

I am not arguing about the overall tank performance, because i just admit it, DRK has no utility at all, but saying he has worst mitigation is clear exaggeration, no he doesnt. Only because he is not given 20 abilities with damage reduction, doesnt mean its worse.
Time plays in this game the most important factor, and that 15 seconds cooldown along with 7 seconds duration build up a ton of mitigation itself, much more than 20% hp more once every 120 sec or shake it of 8% every 60 sec.

Inner beast is only usable during the defiance stance, and it takes 7xgcd to generate it if you are not using storms path and in fact 8x GCD to use it, and in general it is impacting the warrior dps by a ton to use it in defiance stance. You could keep yourself healing all the time inner beast and storm path combo, and you will end up dealing way less damage than DRK.
Why? Because entire warrior class is based all around the GCD and he has only 2 not good enough cooldowns that cost him gauge anyway.
My apologies for forgetting about the inner beast, yes it has 20% mitigation built in it and it is indeed a good one, yet its still gated behind the defiance stance and you sacrificing a lot of DPS, and its not kinda good that way.
Warrior is not worse, he is just a game of choice, you sacrifice dps for healing and vice versa, because you cant have everything.
DRK basically doesnt sacrifice anything, maybe soul eater drain when out of grit stance, thats it. He is absolutely fine tanking, dealing damage and healing himself at the same time. Warrior could do the same, but then he does less dps anyway.
Warrior indeed loses a giant chunk of his dps when he is trying to tank and heal himself.