What is the General Consensus?

[Hierro]

Honestly, for Dark Knight, it's not doom and gloom when it's the absolute truth.
Poor mitigation, lacking in offensive ability and an over reliance on multiple, separate resources.

People are far less likely to take your opinion seriously when you use hyperbole. DRK mitigation is anything but poor. TBN supplements all defensive CDs, for a cost that breaks EVEN in dps. Offensive capability isn't that lacking either when you look at top performing DRKs vs top performing WARs. Also, the last statement is something that's wayy too overloaded with meaningless words.

[Hierro]

Nothing I said was deceptive or untrue.

Oh, honey.

TBN breaks even in its cost. To understand that statement, it means that whether that resource was used for your "offensive abilities" or on TBN makes no difference, the DPS will be the roughly the same. This means that DRK only stands to gain by using TBN so long as the shield breaks, which is no challenge on a 7 second duration. The DRK gains mitigation and keeps their damage. The same could not be said for WAR's Inner Beast. As far as damage goes, the point of showing top performance is what a job is capable of. Is it behind? A bit, but only a bit. Again, when you look at the facts objectively, the doom and gloom surrounding the opinion on DRK leads to people disregarding said opinions.

Your hyperbole has no meat, and I'm quite hungry.

[Hierro]

I never disregarded this, so I am not sure why you are so up in arms about it—I ignored it as there was no reason for me to bring it up.

In regards to TBN, you are being misleading. By bringing up the fact that TBN shares a resource with your "offensive abilites," you are implying an opportunity cost. This is far from the case, as I've pointed out, and why I've brought it up. What you did was deceptive.

My post was also centered around bad design.

Just in case you missed the keypoints, here's what I stated:

I like how you pick and choose exactly what you stated. In reality, you went on to say all three can perform the bare basic function of a tank-- to me, this screams "only to take hits!" Your post goes on to detail the other can excel in other areas, and drk can do nothing else. You then sum your post up with "poor mitigation, poor offensive capabilities," and a bunch of loaded words with no real meaning.

By the way, the former two claims are something that's based on actual numbers, and not something vague and subjective like "feeling."

Dark Knight has a lot of risk involved with play compared to the other two tanks and they are rewarded very little for taking said risks, and often time punished if they don't pan out.

Risk? Yeah, right. You keep your oGCDs on cooldown and make sure to never cap out on resources. Boy, that sure was risky... You talk like DRK is all about olympic gymnastics, when in reality it has less risk involved than PLD!

I pugged all of Deltascape with it

Congratulations on your 4.1 clear.

The complaints, the doom and gloom as many perceive it, is often mentioned or stated in regard to the fact that it had the most stripped from it at launch out of the three.

It plays the same way as 3.0, more or less.

TBN was a band-aid fix that was supposed to shore up the losses but only does so marginally and not to the extent that they presumably hoped.

Ah, yes, how could I forget that useful dark dance?

This has led to an aimless, disjointed play-style that lacks any real flow and is overly reliant on resources and breaking an OGCD shield that costs said resources. Again, bad design.

Great, more loaded words. BTW, breaking that oGCD shield is not hard on a 7 second timer.

Like all of my posts about Dark Knight, I do not and will not mention numbers, I avoid it due to people like you

People like me? Well excuse me for not being born white You avoid talking about numbers because you can't offer an argument based on substance. Instead you focus around popular sentiment while being misleading on your argument. You avoid it because numbers and facts are not convenient to your argument.

So cease, desist, stop bringing up useless details that have nothing to do with the original point I was trying to make and move along.

How dare I bring up numbers in a game about numbers?

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