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  1. #11
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    InkstainedGwyn's Avatar
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    Souji Hanamura
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    I'm also confused by the disparity between "stop allowing zooming out, it makes bosses look small and less imposing" and "make bosses smaller".

    What I hear is "I don't like playing zoomed out, so nobody should be able to, and since I don't play zoomed out I can't see the whole boss so make it smaller."
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  2. #12
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    KaplanHomahru's Avatar
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    Kaplan Homahru
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    We need to be able to zoom out more than we can.
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  3. #13
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Rather than watching videos OP, why not try out the boss fights yourself (and with the camera zoomed in. You have that power as others have said)? There's Byakko Extreme (easy to learn) and the normal mode Sigmascape.

    If all you do is complain about "this and that" without actually doing the content yourself, your arguments/complaints struggle to stand on what little ground you're offering them.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Rather than watching videos OP, why not try out the boss fights yourself (and with the camera zoomed in. You have that power as others have said)? There's Byakko Extreme (easy to learn) and the normal mode Sigmascape.

    If all you do is complain about "this and that" without actually doing the content yourself, your arguments/complaints struggle to stand on what little ground you're offering them.
    OP is a troll he has done nothing else than complain about how bad this game is compare to FFXI or FFXIV 1.0
    On his other thread he resumed black mage with blizzard 1 and fire 1 for ST, Blizzard 2 and Fire 2 for aoe and sleep for crowd control.
    Just ignore him.
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  5. #15
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Comparing this game to MHW is irrelevant, that's a single player action combat system with totally different dodging and combat mechanics. You don't need to zoom out a mile there because of how the combat works.

    Here, zooming out is useful. I'm a healer. I don't need to see a 50,000 foot tall boss. WoW had that with bosses like Supremus that you could only see their leg if you were melee because they were so huge, and it was just dumb. What I do need to see is what other people are doing, where the safe zones are, and which person is most likely to stand in bad so I can get ready to heal them. Zooming me in just makes it more annoying to do my job for no benefit.

    I'll pass, thanks.
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  6. #16
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesera View Post
    OP is a troll he has done nothing else than complain about how bad this game is compare to FFXI or FFXIV 1.0
    On his other thread he resumed black mage with blizzard 1 and fire 1 for ST, Blizzard 2 and Fire 2 for aoe and sleep for crowd control.
    Just ignore him.
    Oh I know. I commented on that as well. I also know that, thanks to an image they posted showing what could be their main, that they have not touched/cleared Extreme Primals (midcore content) since Ravana Extreme :P
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  7. #17
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    Vespereaux Vaillantes
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    No thank you, I like being able to zoom out to get a good overview of the battlefield.
    "Immersion" is good and all, though incredibly subjective, yet when trying to force "immersion" at the expense of being able to function properly, I'll take not ham-stringing myself over "the feelz" in most cases.
    Also not being able to tell wth is going on because you are all zoomed in with a giant monster towering over you and innumerable giant explosions and spell effects are going off all around you feels more frustrating than immersive imo.
    On the other hand, small bosses and greatly toned down special effects while being zoomed in may potentially be more "immersive" but it also seems like it would be way less impressive and fairly underwhelming.
    That kind of thing works for some games but I don't think this is one of them and best to not try to force it to be something it is not.
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  8. #18
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    Elan Centauri
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    If you want the camera zoomed in, zoom it in. Some people like myself prefer to have it zoomed out during an encounter. No one is making you zoom your camera out if you don't want to. Having it zoomed out, however, makes it easier for me to see things I should be avoiding. I'm sure someone somewhere finds it easier to avoid things with the camera zoomed in. It's a preference thing, nothing more.
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    Player illgot's Avatar
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    Tanuki Crash
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    as a tank I can't zoom out enough on some bosses. All I can see is a rave of coloured lights and flashes and maybe half of the boss.

    Let players zoom in and out as much as they wish. Some would rather see the mechanics than be "immersed".
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  10. #20
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    Fynlar Eira
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    No. If anything the max zoom distance needs to be farther than it is.

    Please remember what kind of game this is (DDR)

    If you wanna stay zoomed in / 1st person all the time because immersion, whatever. Just don't be surprised when you start getting booted from content because you can't do mechs.
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