Would you pay $50 to cross job glamour?

[AncientCrystal]

Like if SE sold an item on Mogstation to have any job be able to be glamoured with any other job's gear...

Just curious

[Lokier]

They should lock the option behind a £300 statue...

[illgot]

no. Restricting glams to jobs is one of the things about this game I dislike.

And the argument of "oh, it's lore!" is weak considering we have bikini clad tanks wearing chocobo mascot masks.

The glamour system should be reworked and any item placed in the dresser should become a level 1 jobless glam.

[Tanathya]

AF's need to be locked. I don't want to see a WAR wearing a WHM's AF or viceversa. Screw the lore, it's about a job's appearance.

[Enkidoh]

no. Restricting glams to jobs is one of the things about this game I dislike.

And the argument of "oh, it's lore!" is weak considering we have bikini clad tanks wearing chocobo mascot masks.

The glamour system should be reworked and any item placed in the dresser should become a level 1 jobless glam.

I keep seeing this touted as the 'reason' why glamour class restrictions on armour should be removed and it is simply not true at all - swimwear is a classless costume that is by design meant to be worn regardless of what class or Job you happen to be. Artifact Armour (AF) on the other hand, is Job restricted for a reason, that is it's whole purpose, AF originated in FFXI, and the whole point of it both in FFXI and here in FFXIV is to allow the player to take on the traditional appearance of that Job from past FF games (such as WHM is a white robe with red triangles, DRG is purple draconic armour etc), which, if it could suddenly be worn by any Job, it wouldn't be depicting that Job's appearance now would it?

Think of that Job's AF as it's uniform so to speak. Like how with Grand Companies you can only wear that GC equipment if you're actually enlisted in it, same as AF can only be worn if you happen to be that Job. And I'm glad Yoshi has stuck to his guns with this.

Wearing a bikini as a tank is one thing, as that is just a costume that has no connection to that class or Job. AF is that Job. Hence, it is glamour restricted as a result. And SE will not be changing this (Yoshi made his feelings on that clear back in the Beta, he did not want to destroy each Job's image by allowing cross Job equipping or glamour for it). And I see no signs he has changed his mind on this I'm sorry to say.

[HyoMinPark]

Artifact Armour (AF) on the other hand, is Job restricted for a reason, that is it's whole purpose, AF originated in FFXI, and the whole point of it both in FFXI and here in FFXIV is to allow the player to take on the traditional appearance of that Job from past FF games (such as WHM is a white robe with red triangles, DRG is purple draconic armour etc), which, if it could suddenly be worn by any Job, it wouldn't be depicting that Job's appearance now would it?

To be fair, the person you quoted never mentioned that AF gear should be unlocked, just that the “it’s lore” argument is weak when you consider how they use it as reasoning behind why tanks can’t wear robes, or healers wear full-plate armor.

The only sets that should have job restricts are AF sets. Others should just be unlocked period. The devs destroyed any sense of “lore” with events like Yokai and the fact that tanks can tank mobs in bikinis (or in their small clothes), so lore is a pretty weak excuse.

[Shouko]

Hell no, I refuse to pay 18 dollars for mog shop items, I'm not paying 50 for cross job glamour..I think if they did that it would piss a very large portion of the players off, enough to make a lot quit I suspect.

[Skivvy]

Artifact Armour (AF) on the other hand, is Job restricted for a reason, that is it's whole purpose, AF originated in FFXI, and the whole point of it both in FFXI and here in FFXIV is to allow the player to take on the traditional appearance of that Job from past FF games (such as WHM is a white robe with red triangles, DRG is purple draconic armour etc), which, if it could suddenly be worn by any Job, it wouldn't be depicting that Job's appearance now would it?

Just as an update, XI allows cross-job glamouring (including AF). Here is my THF wearing WHM AF for example:



XIV is all about fan service at this point, and so I think cross-job glamouring will become a thing eventually. They're probably waiting for when their potato servers can handle it :P


To answer the question of OP though, I don't know if I'd pay for it. At least I'd hope I wouldn't pay for it as I feel they are nickle and dimeing this game to death as it is. I really, really hope cross-job glamouring becomes a thing. It's a pointless restriction in my opinion and should be included included in game for free.

[Gemina]

Just as an update, XI allows cross-job glamouring (including AF). Here is my THF wearing WHM AF for example:



XIV is all about fan service at this point, and so I think cross-job glamouring will become a thing eventually. They're probably waiting for when their potato servers can handle it :P


To answer the question of OP though, I don't know if I'd pay for it. At least I'd hope I wouldn't pay for it as I feel they are nickle and dimeing this game to death as it is. I really, really hope cross-job glamouring becomes a thing. It's a pointless restriction in my opinion and should be included included in game for free.

This isn't FFXI, or any other mmo for that matter. There's a whole different crew of decision makers manning those ships. I would argue that 'fan service' would have AF sets remained locked behind their respective jobs, because it's typically fans of the franchise that disapprove being able to glamour AF gear onto a job it doesn't belong to. I would also argue that FFXI no longer feels like a Final Fantasy game, and it's things like what you've pointed out that facilitate that thought process.

It's not pointless having this restriction, but I will agree that a player shouldn't have to pay to have it lifted if it ever did become an option. If this day comes, hopefully like FFXI, it happens LONG after I stop playing it.

[Skivvy]

This isn't FFXI, or any other mmo for that matter. There's a whole different crew of decision makers manning those ships. I would argue that 'fan service' would have AF sets remained locked behind their respective jobs, because it's typically fans of the franchise that disapprove being able to glamour AF gear onto a job it doesn't belong to. I would also argue that FFXI no longer feels like a Final Fantasy game, and it's things like what you've pointed out that facilitate that thought process.

It's not pointless having this restriction, but I will agree that a player shouldn't have to pay to have it lifted if it ever did become an option. If this day comes, hopefully like FFXI, it happens LONG after I stop playing it.

My point in referencing XI is that the poster I quoted was making it sound as if AF was still locked in XI, and it isn't.

I don't think we can claim whether or not unlocking AF would be considered fan service or not seeing that their only other MMO has already gone that route. There isn't much background to form an opinion on, and I've not seen any official polls. However, all of the various FF bosses coming from other games, outfits, music, cross-over events, etc - they don't really help make Eorzea feel like it's own world. We just continue to borrow and implement from everywhere else. So yes, the fan service in this game is insanely high. Letting people cross-job glamour seems quite minor when you take into account everything else already in game.