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  1. #161
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    Remedi's Avatar
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Then it was not the only reason why the majority abandoned the game, frankly I don't care about what happened there, but as you said ppl who are borderline or in that kind of things don't really care much about permabans when they can get back to a maxed account in 5 mins
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    Last edited by Remedi; 03-01-2018 at 06:05 AM.

  2. #162
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    InkstainedGwyn's Avatar
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    Souji Hanamura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Then it was not the only reason why the majority abandoned the game, frankly I don't care about what happened there, but as you said ppl who are borderline or in that kind of things don't really care much about permabans when they can get back to a maxed account in 5 mins
    Pretty sure that the person claiming that is just pulling hyperbole out of nowhere as a flimsy excuse to explain why they 'shouldn't' ban people over this. XI banned like... 550 permanently and 2-300 temporarily over this (at least during the "massive" ban wave).

    I have no idea who in this thread has or hasn't used it (minus those who admitted to it for testing purposes) but I will be interested in seeing how many of these names pop up in the "I was banned unfairly" complaint thread once the bans do go out.
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  3. #163
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    Ashgarth's Avatar
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    Ashgarth Sorel
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    Louisoix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    And XI never recovered from the Salvage bans.
    Please, explain to me how FFXI "never recovered" from having 550 cheaters banned.
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  4. #164
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    The thing is if SE actually rolls back achievements, earned items, and gil earned through using the exploit, most players having all their ill-gotten gains deleted would likely just leave the game in a huff anyway.

    But seriously, if you're still attempting to use it today, you're just asking for trouble at this point. Don't experiment!
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  5. #165
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    Kaldaka's Avatar
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    Lutie Reingarde
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    I've seen a whole lot of hatred and salt floating around since this whole thing came to light this morning.
    I would just like to point everyones attention to something that happened BACK IN MY DAY.
    It was basically the exact same thing:



    If a player used something that was in the game before being informed it was actually an exploit, it's not the players fault that it shouldn't be in the game/accessible in the first place.
    However, now that attention and potential fixes were put in place, my understanding is that from today onward, you use the bad juju at your own peril.
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    Last edited by Kaldaka; 03-01-2018 at 06:22 AM.

  6. #166
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    Lauront's Avatar
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    Nobody said 'indiscriminately permabanning' anyone. We said we think that people who knowingly used it to profit should be banned. People who said 'lol watch this' and used it on unsync'd Garuda? Eh. (Although on the other hand I understand the need to be consistent and 'meaningful content' can vary by definition.)
    Good thing my post wasn't predicated on anyone saying that, eh? It's something the devs could do regardless, albeit won't be doing it seems.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


  7. #167
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    Altria Pendragons
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    To simply put: those who used this exploit intentionally really need to start worry. They have good track record of banning these players in the past and never hestitate.
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  8. #168
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    Viper Li'het
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    I find it funny about how people are trying to justify their actions about using the bug to exploit content. Even funnier about how people are placing the blame solely on SE for the bug existing which in part it is their fault but they didn’t know it existed. However 100% of the blame for using the bug lies solely on the players who did use it. And people seem to forget that this is SE’s game. If they want to ban the people who used the glitch they have every right too as stated in the ToS. You used an exploit to alter the game i.e. giving yourself an edge over other players trying to get their clears through hard work. You deserve it. SE acted swiftly after finding out. And the only proof people have about the bug being reported was a reddit post with only 20ish reads on it until it blew up a day or two ago. SE is also looking into if it was really reported and if it was why didn’t it get checked. TLDR; you cheated and should get banned.
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  9. #169
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    Keridwyn Maeve
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    For once...I'm glad I don't do much battle content.

    Gonna be interesting to watch the fallout from this one for sure.
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  10. #170
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    Kerwin Nindon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaldaka View Post
    I've seen a whole lot of hatred and salt floating around since this whole thing came to light this morning.
    I would just like to point everyones attention to something that happened BACK IN MY DAY.
    It was basically the exact same thing:



    If a player used something that was in the game before being informed it was actually an exploit, it's not the players fault that it shouldn't be in the game/accessible in the first place.
    However, now that attention and potential fixes were put in place, my understanding is that from today onward, you use the bad juju at your own peril.
    lol. And no one was banned for using Titan Egi with Ramuh Extreme either.
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