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  1. #31
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    basketofseals's Avatar
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    Verrine Mercer
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 86
    Can we stop using "well if you just do every mechanic right it's easy" as an argument please? How about some reasoning on why those mechanics are easy instead?

    I say Sophia is the easiest primal. After you get past the add phase, you essentially only need one person that knows the fight for the most part, and the whole group can follow them. Damage all around is not high, AoE is staggered so you can still save the group even if you completely forget or don't notice the cast bar, and messing up never got anyone else in the party killed. In fact, messing up rarely go you killed either unless it caused you to fall off.
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    Essenx Duscae
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    for me ask melee Byakko is easiest I cleared it with 1st try blind run
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  3. #33
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    Dualblade's Avatar
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    Juyon Intoner
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    Cactuar
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    Lakshmi is for sure the easiest, atleast coming from someone who skipped most of the HW EX fights but has done all of ARR and only skipped Shinryu in SB. Personally Susano felt harder then Byakko though that could be because more people play when the expansion comes out, and thus player skill varies much more at that time.

    Byakko is one of the most fun EX fights though IMO, if the devs just had a bit more pattern RNG in there for the fall phase it would be perfect for its difficulty.
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  4. #34
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    Byakko is one of the most fun EX fights though IMO, if the devs just had a bit more pattern RNG in there for the fall phase it would be perfect for its difficulty.
    For me that fall phase make Byakko most boring fight ever.
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  5. #35
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by AncientCrystal View Post
    I've been playing since 3.0 and I gotta say, it's first primal I didn't need to watch a guide for. And when I play BRD, I literally just feels like I can run and shoot and he's dead lol
    Byakko is built for ranged classes. Melee hate it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    For me that fall phase make Byakko most boring fight ever.
    It's to stop people from speed running it. Same with Lakshmi adds / bosom.
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  6. #36
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    Lokier Ame
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    Louisoix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
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    As a ninja main I thnk Byakko is the funnest primal so far. The running away shit can be a bit annoying, but if you know the fight your melee damage / uptime shouldn't be affected that much...


    As for the falling mechanic... I want that shit in the gold saucer, please! I loooove that part of the fight so much. I could do that for hours. xD

    Byakko is second easiest, tbh... Sasuna is pretty piss easy as long as you know how to jump from one side of the tiny map to the other. Shinryu is the hardest and I only ever managed to clear that EXT once.
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    Last edited by Lokier; 02-27-2018 at 11:57 AM.

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  8. #37
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    Metalwrath's Avatar
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AncientCrystal View Post
    I've been playing since 3.0 and I gotta say, it's first primal I didn't need to watch a guide for. And when I play BRD, I literally just feels like I can run and shoot and he's dead lol
    You wouldnt be saying that if you still had the 3.0 Bard.
    Also you feel its too easy then go beat it without the tank lb cheat.

    Susano ex is by way the easiest.It doesnt even feel like its Extreme trial tier.
    Byako ex excels at being annoying as hell for dps especially during orb phase.We lose so much dps over positionals and True north has a useless 3 minute cooldown for the fight.
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  9. #38
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Actually SB does seem to have a thing for adding more flash and slowing fights down.

    I prefer the fights to be more cinematic, but I can see how Byakko will be the bane of farmers forever until we're pushing level 90 and DPS so hard we push through the falling phase (as long as it's not like, Ifrit EX enrages, eek.)
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  10. #39
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    Aisha Clan-clan
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    I think Sophia and Lakshmi were by far the easiest primals upon release. Byakko definitely is one of the easier ones, though.
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  11. #40
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    Hyomin Park
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    Sage Lv 92
    Byakko is not the easiest primal; I’d say that crown goes to Lakshmi, where you press Vrill and ignore all of her mechanics.
    Bismarck Extreme was also braindead easy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    You wouldnt be saying that if you still had the 3.0 Bard.
    3.0 BRD wasn’t that hard. The cast bars were shorter than your GCD; if you mastered slide-casting and made use of your oGCDs/Straighter Shot, there were minimal issues regarding movement.
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