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    Ociela Koslun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    I can't go on different datacenters with my main.
    If you're talking about characters on different servers/data centers, you're not really talking about alts.

    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    I would like it to be less alternate friendly. ( Keep it one man one one world )
    Remove Jump potions really makes players lazy...players lazy as it is.
    Allow retainers to gather ephemeral nodes as collectables.
    Your first and third line contradict your second. Lazy people don't bother with alts, too much work to replay the story and level without armory bonus. Wanting your retainer to do ephemeral node farming for you would be making players more lazy.
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    Last edited by OcieKo; 04-17-2018 at 08:17 PM.

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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Shinigami Zetta
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    Quote Originally Posted by OcieKo View Post
    If you're talking about characters on different servers/data centers, you're not really talking about alts.


    Your first and third line contradict your second. Lazy people don't bother with alts, too much work to replay the story and level without armory bonus. Wanting your retainer to do ephemeral node farming for you would be making players more lazy.
    Referring to alternate characters not Retainers, it does seem to misunderstand the difference.

    As for the third, Retainers should be able to gather anything you have collected so it only makes sense to let them do the same.

    Now that I think about it they should improve the AI in command missions, somethings I think they are smarted than some players.
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    Last edited by ManuelBravo; 04-17-2018 at 10:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Referring to alternate characters not Retainers, it does seem to misunderstand the difference.

    As for the third, Retainers should be able to gather anything you have collected so it only makes sense to let them do the same.

    Now that I think about it they should improve the AI in command missions, somethings I think they are smarted than some players.
    I noticed the difference between retainers and alts in your post. Line 1 implies the player is not lazy, line 2 says players are too lazy and need to be less so, line 3 allows players to be more lazy. Gather the stuff from ephemeral nodes sure, allow them to gather them as turn-in capable or aetherial reduction quality, super lazy.

    If your referring to my comment on Kabooa's post then, it's that I wouldn't consider a character on another server an alternate. It just that server's main character.
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    Last edited by OcieKo; 04-18-2018 at 05:36 AM.

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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by OcieKo View Post
    I noticed the difference between retainers and alts in your post. Line 1 implies the player is not lazy, line 2 says players are too lazy and need to be less so, line 3 allows play ers to be more lazy. Gather the stuff from ephemeral nodes sure, allow them to gather them as turn-in capable or aetherial reduction quality, super lazy.

    If your referring to my comment on Kabooa's post then, it's that I wouldn't consider a character on another server an alternate. It just that server's main character.
    There is a difference in being lazy example ( people complaining about eureka NM trains while standing on the side waiting to pop fate ) and making sense. Example, retainers you can only raise a retainers job based on your efforts by leveling it up. In terms of laziness; Retainer is gathering materials you have collected your self for exchange of retainer currency is not being lazy, it's a way SE tried to keep players from being repetitive as an alternate solution. Being that you have crafting at 70's I'm surprised you don't see this.

    When you think about it ( if your a craft) having retainers farm your resources for currency is not being lazy, it helps speed things up in your down time.Lv up potions help compensate for some and skip levels so that they can catch up and be with their friends....yes it worked however it cut the experience learned as a player and we are left with people who think they know their job at the get go. Sure they can learn it as they play but it gets annoying.


    So it's more of the concept of too many players wanting an ice trophy for just trying that gets annoying. Tired of being in parties were people don't understand the simple 101's of tank/healing and expect people to carry them. For crying out loud can't even gear themselves properly and expect people to keep raising them.
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    Last edited by ManuelBravo; 04-18-2018 at 06:00 AM.

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    Jace Ossura
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    Quote Originally Posted by OcieKo View Post
    If you're talking about characters on different servers/data centers, you're not really talking about alts.
    An alternate character is any character that doesn't receive the same focus as a main character.

    And with the way FF14 is set up, no alternate character of mine will receive any attention at all.
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