Samurai and Red Mage

[Shurrikhan]

Still begging for buffs eh, what happens when you yell into a forest when you are alone ? that's what this is.

Sam could use a little nudge, rdm is fine being 13 dps behind nin.

Begging for buffs is what lead to sams current position, they buffed the other classes instead and now you rot while being excluded..

The bulk of those buffs were generated by basic and necessary functionality fixes that were condemning classes' viability to crippled mush based on a single ill-time death. This is scarcely a "haha, serves you right for playing and carrying about (the toolkit integrity of) something other than your main ( -- Now go despair in the isolation caused by your conscience! -- )" moment...

And what is your source for this "13 dps behind NIN"? Also, even were that the case, it would not be remotely fine, given how much more rDPS NIN is contributing at present.

[Adventica6]

And what is your source for this "13 dps behind NIN"? Also, even were that the case, it would not be remotely fine, given how much more rDPS NIN is contributing at present.

Do you have access to google or any form of parsing utility ? I don't get paid enough to spoon feed data.

Sure nin provides more raid damage but that's all it does, rdm, especially in open world content is unstoppable, yes I am a smn main and I mess around with my rdm who shares my high crit/dhit gear, and in dungeons I literally eat mechanics because I can just heal myself,, can nin do that? no they can't.

Now with eureka coming out and some people want to solo, do u think nin is going to do well face tanking high elemental leveled mobs compared to the solo god rdm ? no they won't.

Not every job in the game needs "raids dps utility" I'd rather never die and collect my loot...

This whole "nin is mai god cuz he buff moi" bs needs to stop, it's a boring class with 1 useful ability in raiding which hardly anyone even does...

Now if you want to dispute things further make damn well sure it's worth my time to respond.

[Shurrikhan]

Do you have access to google or any form of parsing utility ? I don't get paid enough to spoon feed data.

Sure nin provides more raid damage but that's all it does, rdm, especially in open world content is unstoppable, yes I am a smn main and I mess around with my rdm who shares my high crit/dhit gear, and in dungeons I literally eat mechanics because I can just heal myself,, can nin do that? no they can't.

Now with eureka coming out and some people want to solo, do u think nin is going to do well face tanking high elemental leveled mobs compared to the solo god rdm ? no they won't.

Not every job in the game needs "raids dps utility" I'd rather never die and collect my loot...

This whole "nin is mai god cuz he buff moi" bs needs to stop, it's a boring class with 1 useful ability in raiding which hardly anyone even does...

Now if you want to dispute things further make damn well sure it's worth my time to respond.

My god. There's so much wrong with this... Where do I even start? On using Vercure on yourself when you can just avoid AoEs? On measuring job viability by open-world / solo content?

If you hardly do raiding, why debate RDM viability therein? Or anything's? Push for Summoner open-world fun and tricks if you like, but to suggest that RDM is in no need of buffs as it applies to end-level content -- where those differences really are noticeable -- because they have plentiful open-world utility should be ridiculous to you as well.

rDPS is literally the only universal measure of value. The goal of every single ability in this game, whether through survival or restoration or resource growth or mobility or CC or empowerment, is rDPS.

Worry not; I've said as much as I have for purposes more alike to dealing with and abandoning a painful memory, and have no intention of "debating" further.