Give DRK a magic vulnerability debuff

[Shinkyo]

This is not a new idea but I just wanted a separate thread for visibility from SE.
SB has 2 majors balance issues at the moment DRK and Casters.
An elegant way to partially address both would be to give DRK a magic vulnerability debuff (similar to slashing debuff) which would create synergies with Caster comp and re-enforce the magic tank identity.
This would give a unique tool to DRK with real raid benefit.

This could be introduced either by adding our old delirium combo path or (my preferred solution) to Dark Passenger.
Now for it to benefit DRK, BS, DP and all DA enhanced combo enders should become unaspected magical damage.

More than personal dps buff, this would really help bring more identity to the job while bringing synergy with casters that they desperately need.

[SummerScorcher]

I love this idea! I also think it makes alot more sense for them to bring back 3.x Delirium combo with this (under another name, of course) with the old animation- another thing, how would this work with SMNs contagion? Itd be overwritten by Delirium wouldnt it?
Edit: actually, since Ifrit does more damage it would enable them to use him more so I guess that problem solves itself haha

[Rufalus]

I like this idea too. If we're going to keep the whole damage type debuffs and job synergy compositions thing going, then it makes sense to give this to DRK. Been enjoying playing DRK lately, still a good job but doesn't compare well. Needs a little push.

[XykeVayaris]

It will be nice if they could pop that on the soul survival, because really, so many fights that doesn't spawn adds and that one skill is just sitting in my hotbar collecting dust.

[SummerScorcher]

It will be nice if they could pop that on the soul survival, because really, so many fights that doesn't spawn adds and that one skill is just sitting in my hotbar collecting dust.

Id much rather have them rework Sole Survivor into an hP/mp-leech effect (ala Bloodbath) for the whole party. DRKs sustain is already the worst of the 3 tanks- but thats been discussed on many other topics. 3.x Delirium fits perfect for the job I think, it already had the magic-enfeeblement theme to it and gives us back our 2nd DPS combo to break up all the souleating.

Just the two suggestions that are mentioned here gives DRK 2 more options for party utility and I dont think it would be very hard to implement them

[Zarkovitch]

DRK needs dmg,physical migation,utility to compare 2 others.

Dmg we need to be upper than a pld but below a war

Physical Migation now pld can block magic we need our physical defense buff that where dark mind need changes.

Utility I like idea BUT it pending how good combo is if it downgrade souleater combo i would garanteed no one will touch it.

[Shinkyo]

It will be nice if they could pop that on the soul survival, because really, so many fights that doesn't spawn adds and that one skill is just sitting in my hotbar collecting dust.

I think Dark Passenger collects even more dust... I mean, I haven't used more than a couple of times since SB launch.
At least, Sole Survivor has some little use in most content.

Also, imagine how Casters are gonna love you if you put an aoe magic vul debuff with DP :-D

[Shinkyo]

DRK needs dmg,physical migation,utility to compare 2 others.

Dmg we need to be upper than a pld but below a war

Physical Migation now pld can block magic we need our physical defense buff that where dark mind need changes.

Utility I like idea BUT it pending how good combo is if it downgrade souleater combo i would garanteed no one will touch it.

even if it was a 0 potency GCD, the dps increase on casters/healers/PLD would easily make up for it.
we're talking about a debuff with 100% uptime similar to the slashing/piercing/blunt ones.

With such utility, DRK would be OK at it's current DPS given the rDPS contribution. It could even justify not having party shields, though they do need another form of physical mitigation (ideally through Dark Mind).
But mostly, it would allow casters to have a competitive spot for speed runs.

[Awful]

But mostly, it would allow casters to have a competitive spot for speed runs.

You know this is a great point, casters have been left behind in favor of melee comps for speed runs having Drks provide a debuff to magic resistances/ magic vulen would be a great asset and unique to Drk to make them comparable to bring into groups. I agree with this as it gives more flexible options.

[Eyvhokan]

I think Dark Passenger collects even more dust... I mean, I haven't used more than a couple of times since SB launch.
At least, Sole Survivor has some little use in most content.

Also, imagine how Casters are gonna love you if you put an aoe magic vul debuff with DP :-D

Sole Survivor in savage is about as useful as the old shake it off. Even when it can be used it basically provides is benefit when you least need it for the most part.