Plz do something about the multiplot owners

[Missbone]

I realy appricate that SE goes with the new patch one step in right direction when it comes to housing. But as with a lot of other things it feels that they stoped after the half way. Its nice to see that inthe feature players only can own 1 private and FC house per world (like it should have been right from the start). But this changes nothing for servers where the plots are allready sold out since months/years and several people own multiple plots with there twinks.

Its possible for one player to own a max of 16 plots per World and there are different people that make use of it. They stuck up the plots just for selling them later for mutch higher price, they didnt even use them (except maybe 1 o 2 for private use). This shouldnt simply be possible in a game where the housingplots are allready very limited right from the start.

SE should give these people a limited amount of time to decide witch private and FC plot they whant to keep and making all other availible to the market again. Adding the rule without changing the current situation feels like joke.

[Coratanni]

Not going to happen.

[Vstarstruck]

They should had these rules before the SB housing was even released, heck why was it it done for HW?

[KDSilver]

They can't. Because, when they bought their plot, there was no rule about limited plot.
Yes, it is indeed totally sad that one person can own multiple plot while it's really hard for some other player to get at least one.
But it's not players fault, it's dev team. And dev team can't take away plots and "punish" player for that because they broke no rules.

Yes, i think we all agree that, considering the current situation with housing... people owning severals plots isn't fair. But again... well they did nothing wrong.

So nothing will be done in my opinion.

[Missbone]

Well i think they can, because its simply abuse what some players do. Just because its possible it dosnt meant that you should do that. Yes the rules didnt exsist when they bought the plots and it would be another thing if they would use them for personal stuff. But blocking plots on purpose just to raise the plotprize for maximizing their own profit shouldnt be tolerated and be punish.

When someone takes everything from an FC chest and leaves, SE can not force those items away from the person, due to them having access in the first place.

This is wrong in other mmos players can get punished for that, because behavior like that has big negative effect at the rest of the guild. Because you dont want ruin the fun for other players just because one is an asshole.

[Bacent]

When someone takes everything from an FC chest and leaves, SE can not force those items away from the person, due to them having access in the first place.

This is wrong in other mmos players can get punished for that, because behavior like that has big negative effect at the rest of the guild. Because you dont want ruin the fun for other players just because one is an asshole.

Yeah well this is how it's always worked in XIV. People will always be assholes.

Also I'd like to openly state that I once removed everything from an FC Chest, because in an old FC I was in a terrible person was put in charge of the FC, and they changed the rules that any money that was put into the FC was not allowed to be removed at all (Lost 3m back in the days of 2.1, back when that was a decent amount). They even used it to buy a medium plot without discussing anything with anyone else. Shit happens. If someone has permissions and decides to abuse them, it's the fault of whoever gave said permissions.

Do you know how many cases that SE has to handle a day that aren't about item related issues? Now imagine if people could be reported for taking items from the FC chest because they have permissions. Don't want people taking your stuff? Don't give them a chance.

Hell I've played a couple dozen MMORPGs, and there have been cases of stuff like this where either the company CAN do something, or CAN NOT due to the rules they have in place. MANY companies are against going in and editing peoples' accounts by removing items and then giving them to someone else. It's a VERY gray zone and many companies don't want to even touch that. It's not every single MMO out there that isn't XIV. So don't act like it's a blanket statement.

[Missbone]

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Well i can understand the motivation in your case but that didnt change the fact that stuff like that is simply wrong. I could also go to the supermarket, grab something and leave without paying. Maybe i even didnt get noticed but its still wrong. Of course Guilds should manage their rules properly but you can allways have a black sheep in your ranks. I know a chase from WoW where a member that whas in the guild since it whas founded and never did something bad to the guild (of course as one of the first members he had veteran rank or something like that) one day took everything from the bank and left just because he had an disagreement with an other member. How do you want prevent something like that? No matter how hard you try if bad luck hits you stuff like that can allways happen. A GM restored later after a chat with the guild most of the stuff (thats how chases like this should be handled), but i dont know what happend with the stolen items (maybe they where deletet, maybe he could keep them no idea).

[Youkulm]

They can't. Because, when they bought their plot

Wrong. They can do whatever they want. It's their game. It's in the ToS. If they decided to re-do housing because they wanted to and we lost all our houses we equally wouldn't have any say. The same goes if they remove multiple homes from people who own more than the new limit.

Not arguing one way or the other. Just saying.

[Coratanni]

Wrong. They can do whatever they want. It's their game. It's in the ToS. If they decided to re-do housing because they wanted to and we lost all our houses we equally wouldn't have any say. The same goes if they remove multiple homes from people who own more than the new limit.

Not arguing one way or the other. Just saying.

Eliminating all private housing is certainly one solution.

[LalaRu]

Multiplot owners that got them with resell purpose already got screwed: you cannot resell anything no more.

When you relinquish land, that become unsellable for a random time and you cannot see how much time before it turns again available for purchase.

Only thing still left to address, is selling FCs with their housing but it was mitigated with the "one account one FC house" rule.