Storyline Prior to Game

[Judge_Xero]

Judge Xero! -tackles and hugs-

Azarim Erro **High-Five**

My thoughts on Bahamut - Seeing as how the Garlean Empire would be pretty sore about getting the snuff kicked out of them by the Beast Tribes etc. I figured, why would they leave Bahamut as a landmark... They are probably working right now on some Advanced Machine to either raise Bahamut from his Crystal Prison or... Use an Advanced Machine to convert him to his Magical Form (Magicite) to use as a powerful weapon against the beast tribes. With such a solid base, the story could move in any direction, I'm excited to find out more.

[SirEdeonX]

My take on the trailer and on the story is this:

First they show a couple of adventurers gathering guildleves (the main system of the game).
The main character (just like every one of us) is shown to have the Echo, hearing voices and experiencing a past event.
In this past event, a battle is show (i think it really has no relevance other than to show the game will feature common FF monsters - like Molboros - and to show battle regiments - with that fire arrow thing)

Then the background story begins. The character is then taken to the midst of a battle. Since those winged-cannon-thin-tall-freakish machines are being used by the garleans, I think that battle was an attempt of the Empire to destroy another city-state, just like Ala Mhigo. Maybe Ishgard. For me, it seemed as the dragons were protecting the land, and the empire then began killing all the dragons (and then began the meteor-shower scene, which were actually the dragons being shot down Q.Q).
However, they forgot about the king of all dragons (or mommy dragon XD) Bahamut, which appeared and destroyed the empire's dreadnaught. With Bahamut's sacrifice, the Echo was created and so were the primals. This happened 15 years ago. The official website also mentions the primals were first summoned around 10 years ago.

The adventurer's guilds were formed since the empire never got to Ishgard (or whatever city they were attacking). And everyone is preparing for the garlean invasion (maybe they are creating another dreadnaught D: 15 years seem like a decent time to create a thing with that size)

I'm really loving the story of FFXIV It has huge potencial. However, none of this is in the game as it should :s

[Malakhim]

Has anyone else pointed out that one of the biggest reasons the Garleans might have been in Mor Dhona in the first place is that Silvertear Falls is apparently a huge crystal vein, and according to some of the rank missions(rank 30) I believe, they've had a detachment of troops there for years?

[Jennestia]

Has anyone else pointed out that one of the biggest reasons the Garleans might have been in Mor Dhona in the first place is that Silvertear Falls is apparently a huge crystal vein, and according to some of the rank missions(rank 30) I believe, they've had a detachment of troops there for years?

It's possible -- all the more reason I expect the first expansion pack to be something akin to a history/build up of the Garleans since they seem pretty prominent yet current quests and storyline barely taps into it.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

not readding the hole thread as I'm sure it filled with trolling. (derailing a thread with how bad the game is, is trolling. Not even the fact you hate the game)

The cs starts with a hyr/ hume, a seeper of sun miqo'te, woodland elzian (sorry spelling is bad) they are in an adventurers guild picking out levequets (which are not quests but mercenary jobs/ adventures) the hume guy notices one on the side. Like it is calling to him. He look at it and some how "the echo" brings his mind to a hume in the past.

He is now an archer with a group of adventurers. Mostly a group of adventuers getting coin to kill off bounties. (which inspired the adventures guild and levequests) as they fight the marbolo they get interupted by a dragon and war birds. the hume gets into the war bird and and you see this war with a gaint air battle ship (commonly called ragnorok in ff games) fighting a serpentine dragon (commonly called bahamut in ff games) as a last plea the ppl crash the ship to kill the dragon coiled around it.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

ship explodes and the engery source I forget what the ishgards called it, but their tech is powered my mini espers, or small summons. the humne snaps back and his two comanpoins wonder what was going on. The hume looks at the guildleve again shaking and decides to do that one.

Echos from what was talked about are times where you live out past events as if they were your own.

since guildleves the acutall cards play a role in the game and looks as they do. I think there is more to them then let on in the start of the game. As per suggested in the opening.

I personly like this story s far. Its like final fantasy with a zelda twist. ff stpries are not for everyone, but don't make them bad games cuz a stpry wasn't to your liking. Like I thought ff8 had a great story, but I didn't like ff7 story. Not saying ff7 was a bad game just the story wasn't my thing. Just like I liked ffx-2 story. I liked ff13 story just game coulda been better. My brother liked ff13 he played through it twice.

[Malakhim]

Twice? Your brother's a lightweight.

I'm about to start working on my 4th.

On the 360 version! /doubleshock

[AdvancedWind]

"I skip all cutscenes and everyone should do that too"

Well, why

"Because the story is bad."

Riiight. How do you know the story is bad?

"Well....I...skip the cutscenes, tee hee"


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[AdvancedWind]

As for something more in topic...first off, the big dragon of the opening is surely Bahamut , for no other reason than "He looks like Bahamut", "he's mean and powerful" and it fits everything else seeing that classic summons are back there.

Leviathan is 100% sure aligned with the Sahagin. The Sahagin are attacking Limsa. Leviathan is attacking lominsan ships. All those legends about Seal Rock island and the "key" link to Leviathan. Travanchet is clearly working with (or using the) Sahagin and he's after (and ultimately get) the key. There's no doubt about that. I also firmly believe he's going to be a major villain soon enough (Travanchet, not levi =P)

Ifrit is confirmed in-game to be aligned with the Amal'jaa and Garuda is also confirmed to be the Ixal's primal. Kobolds use plenty of earth-element based moves and drop things such as "Titan mythrilpiece" or use moves like "Titan's anger", so this leaves me with no doubt about that.

With that aside, what intrigues me is all the fuss about the Garleans. Why do they hate the primals so much, up to the point of brainwashing conquered nations into hating them? Do they just want to conquer everything and see the Primals as a potential problem or do they know something we don't about their true nature?

Also, the battle shown at the opening is unrelated to their initial invasion and not the major reason to their retreat. If you talk with some NPCS (I believe some inside the path of the twelve when doing the R46 mission, and the battlewardens in mor dhona) they say that the Garleans "have been quiet for quite such time, except for an incident a few years ago above mor dhona).

This open room for a small speculation: Ala Mhigo discovered something they deemed potentially dangerous, possible Primal related. They went there, kicked butts, built a wall around the place, no reason to attack the other city-states, so they leave.

Later, the garleans see the exact same thing near Ishgard and try to attack them....only to be greeted by DRAGONS EVERYWHERE OH MY. Obviously, they retreat and wait.

In the mean time, the other primals are unleashed upon eorzea and align themselfs with the beast tribes...the garleans take notice of that and decide to once again do their job. Remember that after the R36 mission, they even drop linkpearls on the city states clearly stating they will not attack and protect everyone that helped fighting against the beast tribes, their primals and those touched by the echo, (and of course included a bit of "Also: We get to peacefully rule you in the mean time). Maybe the Garleans are at the same time power hunger (oh boy, they DO want to conquer stuff and their theme is pretty menacing) but they may also have something legitimate against the Primals.

Remember that we are often reminded that the Garleans are NOT the main menace.

[Shura]

I think someone alrdy mentioned this but the time line won't make sense if we use the theory the primals were born from the dragon that died at Mor Dhona. Since we learn in the Ul'dah missions and in one of the lore pages on the official site that the primals have existed for a long time and the beastmen think of them as gods. Hence where the confusion would take place, how can something that has existed for hundreds of years only be born 15 years ago.

Unless you think of it as, the primals were sealed away either at Mor Dhona by someone or within that dragon and as a result when the dragon died or crashed into the seal at Mor Dhona they were freed. This theory also opens up a new line of thinking though, which is what if that fight between the Garleans and the dragon was not just random aggravation caused by each others presence. Instead the Garleans were after the release of Primals to begin with, maybe in order to harness their power but the fight did not go as planned and they suffered more damaged then they intended too. The reason i came up with this theory is in one of the Ul'dah missions you learn the Garleans are searching for something, which seems to be the focus of their concern right now.

Edit** this might also explain why the Garleans sent linkpearls stating their war is not with the races but with the beastmen. The Primals which escaped capture during that incident 15 years ago are now allied with the beastmen and hence why the Garleans are targetting them instead of the city-states. Ala Mhigo might have been connected to these primals in someway or may have held the key to the location of their seal; which is why the Garleans only targeted them and did not bother coming for the other cities. We do learn from the lore page that Ala Mhigo was the most powerful of the states, this may have had something to do with the Primals powers