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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidLocksley View Post
    So much for what I really wanted to talk about. I am glad anouther post got taken over by people who don't like the game.
    The adventurer was not from the empire, he was being constricted by the morlboro when the empire thing crashed ontop of him. This knocked him out and he ended up on the ship.

    My guess is that Ishgard was behind the dragons but them being summons I kinda doubt, we'll need more insight on ishgard. I know the guards at the gate mentioned something bout giving myself to the fury but I walked away thinking he was hitting on me.
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    I didn't read all posts, but the dragon, the big one, is known as the "Keeper of the Land".. It's still there in Mor Dhona right in the center. It's not a summon but the "Dragon King" if you will, if you check the big cloth map that comes with the EU LTD Edition it tells you that.

    Also, Ishgard doesn't summon dragons, they're a city that's at war with Dragons, the landmass above Coerthas, which isn't yet in the game, is dominated by dragons, Ishgard is ever at war, so much as to have a guild within the city that recruits hunters to traverse into these lands to slay them!

    As far as the Summons go, I forgot their actual name, but they were summoned by a higher diety, not the dragon. You do come into contact with it VERY briefly in stories and a cut scene within the storylines Plot.

    There's my 2 cents.

    Edit:

    Through the development of this game I was ALWAYS fascinated by the lore and the Ishgardians war with Dragons.. Far more an enticing prospect than the current situation between the 3 Nations and Garlemald... Which is staler than week old water.

    I always imagined it to bring back content like FFXI back.

    Battling Wyverns and Wyrms and Dragons and huge colossal Dragon NM's that take a full party and a massive headache, etc, etc.

    Plus I'm super curious to see what their "Lair" looks like.. Dragon cave? Dragon caverns? Dragon CITY?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraxai View Post
    I didn't read all posts, but the dragon, the big one, is known as the "Keeper of the Land".. It's still there in Mor Dhona right in the center. It's not a summon but the "Dragon King" if you will, if you check the big cloth map that comes with the EU LTD Edition it tells you that.

    Also, Ishgard doesn't summon dragons, they're a city that's at war with Dragons, the landmass above Coerthas, which isn't yet in the game, is dominated by dragons, Ishgard is ever at war, so much as to have a guild within the city that recruits hunters to traverse into these lands to slay them!

    As far as the Summons go, I forgot their actual name, but they were summoned by a higher diety, not the dragon. You do come into contact with it VERY briefly in stories and a cut scene within the storylines Plot.

    There's my 2 cents.
    Abraxai, do you happen to have that cloth map? Because all versions of the map I have bear no justice to the transcript in the very bottom right, labeled under "In One are Twelve".

    Summons are done by the beastmen tribes under influence by the aetherial crystals; the only currently known one is Ixal -> Ifrit. Speculation also surround the Sahagin and Leviathan.

    I would say some advancement jobs will be located in Ishgard e.g. DRAGOON.
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    Well, there's nothing wrong with a bit of speculation, is there? Thinking about what may have happened and potential development into the story may actually give people a chance to think and produce ideas instead of supplying needless comments on how bad the game is/how much they were cheated by the game.
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    Personally I don't think the empire was fighting a city in particular during that cutscene. The way the dragon are reacting, the absence of other people, it kind of look like the empire happened to fly near a dragon nest and was attack by those dragons. At least that's the impression i have.

    The important part of the cutscene seem to be the crash. Between the land that was ravaged to look how it look now, the pillar of light and the primals who went to different place of Eorza, i think that the primals were sealed in Mor Dhona and freed by the crash. Still with the current cutscenes in the game and the little bits of story, there's no way to really know what exactly happened.
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    Yeah, there it is.

    http://www.ffxivcore.com/wiki/Eorzea

    It reads:

    - In One Are Twelve -


    "A map is as precise
    As the malms walked in her making,
    Yet I fear these feet
    Have but far too few between them


    May she serve faithfully
    Any who would employ her for good,
    And shun all who would fill
    Her borders with blood


    Twelve see the steps taken
    By those who heed her humble guidance
    Ensure her legacy endures


    Roddard Ironheart
    Year 1506 of the 6th Astral Era"
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    As far as I know, that "Dragon King" that fought with the Garleans over Mor Dhona is in fact Bahamut, and when he "died" the Primals(which are made up of different summons like Ifrit, Titan, Garuda, Leviathan, etc.) were born from his breath.

    What confuses me is when this actually takes place. We know it was in the past of Eorzea as we currently know it, but if the beastmen have been worshiping the primals for years and Leviathan has been pumping water into the oceans for years as per the legend of Swallowtail Roam(Limsa story), then it had to have happened much much longer than we think, unless the beastmen have always worshiped the idols of the primals, but this is the first time they're actually manifested in physical form.

    There are plenty of other things that confuse me, such as the use of the echo throughout the entire "Limsa arc" of the story and the origin of the "main characters" like Y'shtola(are all of them from Sharlayan and did something big happen there?) not to mention the nature of the ascians and the shadowless, but I like the story quite a lot.

    Gonna be all kinds of interesting once they open up Ishgard and we can see all this rage they have against the dragons. Eorzea is all kinds of screwed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malakhim View Post
    As far as I know, that "Dragon King" that fought with the Garleans over Mor Dhona is in fact Bahamut, and when he "died" the Primals(which are made up of different summons like Ifrit, Titan, Garuda, Leviathan, etc.) were born from his breath.
    I haven't seen any concrete evidence for this, but I sure as hell want it to be true.

    And then I want Bahamut to eventually decrystalize.

    And then I want to fight it!
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    I do have the map! However any picture i take of it would be limited to 1.3 megapixels :P I remember seeing a high-res one online when I first started the game, bare with me I'll link it once I find it!
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    Yay, thanks! Right now, it's so hard to decipher blurred up pictures of the transcript there...I can only manage the 3 lines in bold; everything in between gets faded too much to grasp the entirety of it.

    Anyone want to guess what summon the Sylphs are aligned with? Since they bear a prominent role in the storyline, the summon for them should also be revealed sooner or later. I'm guessing either Garuda or Titan; they are found in the Black Shroud, which is more based around the woody aspects, hence either wind, earth or water. Water is taken already by the Sahagin, so it's those two left.
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