Things i am hoping to see in 1.21 or near future...

**YuriSan** · 01-24-2012 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by Skies

Actually, no, the "high end drop" gear definitely should not overshadow the "high end crafted" gear at all. For one thing, because the DoH and DoL classes are amongst the selling points of this game "Here, crafting is so important it has a whole buncha classes dedicated to it! With levels and all!"

Of course i'm not saying that stats shouldn't be useful or whatever, just- Mentioning something that people always forget, that they plan on, or at least was in the original plan, for the crafted gear to be, in fact, the ultimate gear.
Of course they could always work in some horizontal progression here, with crafted gear being good at boosting your overall usefulness and drop gear being good for REALLY SPECIALIZED tasks by having weird bonuses. (or the other way around).
And they could even mix in both things anyway, having high-end drops being not completed gear but components used by crafters.

Best combo to have both crafters happy (i am a crafter too btw)
and also have rare u/u gear be ultimate is for the drops to not be finished gear but just components as you said..
However i dont want to have a new bs easy to make weapon outdo the weapon i bled for to get u know??
Aeolian Scimitar +1..... Man... was that hard to get when it was hot... now a "Master sword" is the hot thing all the cool kids like... and u gotta be in their groups right? jk...

**Lum** · 01-24-2012 01:37 AM

2 Things i want.

1) Open world content worth doing. More in the area of NM's and HNM's with real spawn conditions that have rare drops worth using, not this spawn every 5min.

2) Server transfers and merges. The game needs both of these regardless of how bad a merge sounds, it will help the remaining paying community greatly.

If i could just have some NM's worth camping solo or with a small group of people, that would keep me busy until 2.0 atleast.

**syntaxlies** · 01-24-2012 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by Lum

2 Things i want.

1) Open world content worth doing. More in the area of NM's and HNM's with real spawn conditions that have rare drops worth using, not this spawn every 5min.

2) Server transfers and merges. The game needs both of these regardless of how bad a merge sounds, it will help the remaining paying community greatly.

If i could just have some NM's worth camping solo or with a small group of people, that would keep me busy until 2.0 atleast.

there will never be NM's worth camping solo. it would make them too easy to kill with a party.

**DeadRiser** · 01-24-2012 02:32 AM

I think everything you were talking about was right on the point.

**Eldaena** · 01-24-2012 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by YuriSan

Hehe. sorry man no offence but i seriously laughed pretty hard at this part right here..

You think that being able to kill a primal in a bikini is ok???
I think it is unaccepable.. should have been 1 hit K.O + fatality instead of a victory..
Also i am not only talking about that aspect of stats not working.

Do some enmity + and enmity - stat tests.
And then try checking if a fully dressed buffed with DEX and PIE ARC using the Ifrit bow
does more damage than a nekkid one using a crab bow lol.

IMO if u gonna sink insane amounts of time gil. labor and effort to obtain something it should kick your crafted in 2 minutes item's ass into the outter space oblivion not make a tinybarely noticable difference that u have to look super carefully do detedct lol.

Attention thats just my opinion.

First of all, I'm a lady. =) Second of all, in ifrit if you are skilled enough to NOT get hit by the primal what is gear really doing for you at that point? Just giving you stats towards attacking or healing, etc. If you're a tank in a bikini? You have mages curing over the fact that you have no gear on. It's doable. Gear doesn't = your character's skill level. Are you telling me that all the durability of your character should be simply based on gear? The world of gear that you appear to want would mean a game that is extremely hard. Also, knowing the correct gear and materia to use on your class also helps you a lot. I have tested it and I've had people in my LS test it. The difference in moogle fight between good materia gear and standard issue non materia gear is noticeable. One feels like you're running in mud and the other feels fluid and enjoyable in comparison. And there is noticeable damage differences too. I can understand wanting to feel powerful in comparison to how much time/effort you put in, but remember this is still the same level cap we were at since the beginning. They have been working hard to balance the stats and the combat in general. Upping up your stats above the thresholds can greatly increase the notice-ability in the said stat as well. I think people don't appreciate the balance that the devs have been trying to create here. =(

**Zantetsuken** · 01-24-2012 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by YuriSan

IMO if u gonna sink insane amounts of time gil. labor and effort to obtain something it should kick your crafted in 2 minutes item's ass [...]

As if it doesn't require insane amounts of time, gil, labor, and effort to get to the level where you can craft something on par with a DH item. It certainly takes longer than the lucky guy I PTd with last night who got 2x DH items on his first run.

I agree that DH and NM stuff should be better - at least better than single melded items, but certainly not better than double melded gear.

**Rydin** · 01-24-2012 10:17 AM

Stats matter... they matter quite a bit
parse a weathered Bow and nude against an iffrit bow and materia gear and see if you see a difference
the problem is, unless you are parsing, its hard to just eyeball damage different because of RNG

So say I'm doing 200-300 with a certain weapon skill and my attack increases 10%.... Now I'm doing 220-330 but its kind of hard to just see a difference unless you parse it... You'll just see 280, 250, 230, 310.. and then think "WOW, I'm doing the same damage as before"

As far as defense, Ifrit's definitely hitting me for less these days...and I am a TANK.....
The thing is, his hardest attacks are magic based... and with Magic defense gone from gear, you pretty much have the same magic defense nude or fully geared unless you use gear that boosts a certain element....
So its not that stats dont matter... its that you're not boosting the stat that matters

As far as GC seals.. the slower and harder seals are to get... the more you will cherish them and what you can buy with them

**Theplatter** · 01-24-2012 11:28 AM

Two things (and yes, I'll be referencing FFXI, just deal with it):

1.) Imo, the problem with stats is that they come in such high quantities. If they were lowered, you'd notice a difference when you put just a few points into something rather than dozens of points. Case in point, the peacock charm provided 10 accuracy, and was generally worth millions of gil because you noticed the difference in accuracy.

1.) Regarding crafted vs. dropped gear, this is why I loved abjuration gear. It was comprised of a piece of cursed gear that could only be made by a high-level crafter, and then uncursed by the abjuration that was a (sometimes) rare drop from a high-level NM. Why aren't items like these implemented?

**Rydin** · 01-24-2012 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Theplatter

1.) Imo, the problem with stats is that they come in such high quantities. If they were lowered, you'd notice a difference when you put just a few points into something rather than dozens of points. Case in point, the peacock charm provided 10 accuracy, and was generally worth millions of gil because you noticed the difference in accuracy.

That my friend is entirely relative....
For instance... if they gave every MOB 10 times the HP... but made every attack hit 10 times harder.... There would be, for all intents and purposes, no change. Conversely with stats... the problem is all the stats increased while stat boosts from gear and materia stayed the same... so Attack +26 seemed more effective before 1.20

I think I am saying I agree with you in a way... I just feel like the things that boost stats (materia) should be raised in accordance with the attribute changes... but I'm torn.. because triple slotted gear would be INSANELY OP

Did you get my point that without parsing, a 10% increase in effectiveness is hard to perceive?

**Dawiichan** · 01-24-2012 12:36 PM

IMO if they're going to make U/U gear meldable it should only be able to use U/U materia. This materia would also have to drop from endgame content, most likely also giving different stats than the current materia. The gear would probably only be able to be single melded as well. As much as I'd like U/U gear to be meldable like crafted gear, if they do that crafters become quite pointless other than the fact that they can meld materia into gear.

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