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  1. #21
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    Texa Yuu
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    Why then is chat not disabled in PvE
    Because with dungeons you're likely going to get a different group every single time you head in and won't have to deal with jerks repeatedly. Kick abuse doesn't have anything to do with chat and the specific reason for it is usually based on assumption.

    Whether or not I thought it was justified is completely beside the point. I actually think potd is the worst when it comes to rude and hateful people if you care to know. But, SE was the one who decided to act on pvp based on their intimate knowledge of what was reported. There would have had to of been a legitimate problem of a decent scale for that call to have been made which was all that I tried to point out. The reaction to that change could also be a factor in SE's inaction with botting, but that's only conjecture.
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  2. #22
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    Alijana Tumet
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    I think only an outcry on the level of that of the housing issue might get them to consider a change in their policies regarding bots.

    Unfortunately, the vast majority of players probably aren't even aware of them and thus don't care.

    It would take an organized effort on the part of several concerned players to get the matter noticed enough for them to care at all, but considering how poorly they handle even the gil farming bots (Moving the loot they were farming in Amdapor Keep for gil from the first chest to the last chest has not discouraged them at all, and if anything, may have just provoked them into making more bots to compensate for the slower gil farming), I'm thinking they wouldn't know how to deal with the more complex ones even if they tried.
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  3. #23
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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    Leviathan
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    The thing with PVP chat is that you'd get hotheads telling you to go die in a fire or kill yourself or whatnot, but even if you blacklist them, you'll still be in a party with them come the next match. At least with party finder, if you blacklist someone, their name and PF is faded out so you know you want nothing to do with it. PVP matches never gave you that luxury -- although this new team-based option might help.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    PVP matches never gave you that luxury -- although this new team-based option might help.
    They technically did give you that luxury up until season 5, where it was removed. Light Party queue was premade vs premade and with a premade, you can pick your comrades as you liked.

    Technically, because team queues were slow as all heck and cynic ole me is going to predict this new team based option is going to share that same fate.
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  5. #25
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    Lace Valeria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texa View Post
    But, SE was the one who decided to act on pvp based on their intimate knowledge of what was reported.
    1. If their "intimate knowledge of what was reported" is so valid, then why has half a year of reports and complaints about botting and exploiting gone unanswered. Surely that many people couldn't just be making this up, right?
    2. Before you fully commit yourself to the idea that their "intimate knowledge" is such a good source to act on, read this: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...n-in-The-Feast
    In particular, read maybe the first few pages, then jump to page 40. Look at the time difference. Look at the first rep response there. Then read the rest. Take note of just how many things players said that proved to be more true, or show better/deeper understanding of the issue. Read that, then ask yourself if what they supposedly know is so much more weighted than what players actually experienced.
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  6. #26
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    Tor Kara
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    Long queue times because of bots? Yeah great logic!
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  7. #27
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    Winter Sandman
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf_Tech View Post
    2. Monitor the Rival wings BG, You will noticed the bots follow the same pattern every round they att mameets only never collect CE and attack the towers solo never getting into one mech.
    I don't see how this correlates to Bots. I hate mechs and I hate middle so I have.... attack mammets and towers. I have taken down towers before solo and will continue to do so.
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  8. #28
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    Gonna leave this here. This was a match where 91% of the players were bots.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abp3jlvNvls

    Can we, like, contact gaming news websites to run an article on this? I think its the only way to make Square do anything about the problem.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisama View Post
    Gonna leave this here. This was a match where 91% of the players were bots.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abp3jlvNvls
    I think everyone who reads this post read your other post with the same video.
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  10. #30
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    Aria Fairchild
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    I was waiting for this thread to be moved to PvP forum where it will be left here to rot into obsolescence. Forum mods never fail to deliver.
    #SEEspurtz
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