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  1. #11
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    worldofneil's Avatar
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    Scott Pilgrim
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ArgosAvalance View Post
    A simple look through the ward navigator will show you TONS of "FC"s with only 1 member and a medium/large ward. Sometimes, even that only member is a level 1 character.

    It's clearly a violation of the rules and it's really frustrating for real players and real FCs being unable to found a medium ward while we have to see this daily.
    The rule is on purchasing, it's not on keeping it (because then any small company that lost members would also lose their house).

    You also don't need a specific level to buy a house for an FC, only the rank of the FC it self.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    Just because you can does not mean you should.
    That's your personal opinion though. It's not a rule.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    These homes owned by level 1 characters are most likely intended to be flipped.
    And that's a personal assumption. There have been 1 person/low level owner FCs since housing first existed. People have them for multiple reasons, gardens, airships (and now submarines), charging aetherial wheels, roleplay...

    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    Homes owned by higher level characters could be either for real personal use or again for flipping.
    So I might be misunderstanding this statement, but are you basically saying ANY FC could therefore be used for flipping? Any FC could also NOT be used for flipping too?
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  2. #12
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    Elamys's Avatar
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    Song Sparrow
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    Balmung
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    And that's a personal assumption. There have been 1 person/low level owner FCs since housing first existed. People have them for multiple reasons, gardens, airships (and now submarines), charging aetherial wheels, roleplay...
    Level 1 characters cannot contribute materials to the workshop.


    So I might be misunderstanding this statement, but are you basically saying ANY FC could therefore be used for flipping? Any FC could also NOT be used for flipping too?
    A level 1 character owning a solo FC is probably going to be used for flipping. But one could just as easily make an FC and get a house for the purpose of flipping on a high level character too. But there's also a likelier possibility that they could be using the house as merely a personal home.
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

  3. #13
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    Dustytome's Avatar
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    Fox Briarthorn
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    Sargatanas
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    Culinarian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    Level 1 characters cannot contribute materials to the workshop.
    They can however use pre-built airship/sub parts. They just can't use the workshop to build anything themselves.
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  4. 02-22-2018 01:13 PM
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    They've made up their mind, nothing anyone says will change that

  5. #14
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    Flashgordon Bahamut
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgosAvalance View Post
    A simple look through the ward navigator will show you TONS of "FC"s with only 1 member and a medium/large ward. Sometimes, even that only member is a level 1 character.

    It's clearly a violation of the rules and it's really frustrating for real players and real FCs being unable to found a medium ward while we have to see this daily.
    Yet there are tons of houses available.
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  6. #15
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    Shiki Gami
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tashantir View Post
    Square should totally take a look at this. Ragnarok is a big enough world with a lot of people for this "FCs" to own all the plots for themselves, while they only have 1-2 members in the FC and the owners doesn't even have enough level to own a house.
    There are a lot of valid Free companies with small houses or not even a small house that would really enjoy the housing system and they can't cause of this egoist people.
    we all know there's one FC workshop that owns 35 plots run by alts. They keep the workshop there and run the airships/submarines whenever needed.
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  7. #16
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    What exactly should SE do? If they fulfill the requirements for purchasing, then they are allowed to purchase. How exactly is SE going to prove wrongdoing here? It's not against the rules to buy an FC house on a lower level character. It's also not against the rules to be the only one in your FC. It doesn't necessarily mean house flipping, either. I have friends who do not want to join another FC and have made their own FC because they were going mad from spam invites. I had another where everyone abandoned him and the house passed to his hands when he was the newest member. SE is not going to be able to filter out these legitimate FCs from those who may be attempting to circumvent rules. Not unless they implement further restrictions like the current "Can't buy if in an FC with house" rule that really does nothing except punish legitimate players.
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  8. #17
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    Kittypryde Kujata
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    Ultros
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    Pugilist Lv 78
    I have a good friend who's a high level omnicrafter and is sort of a hermit. He is in a solo FC, and prefers it that way. He likes the quietness, drama free vibe of a solo FC. He also loves doing airships. Solo.
    I have another friend who has a 2 person FC for her and her RL husband. They like their peace and quiet also.
    There are many players like this that don't like FCs with 5, 10, 20-200 other players . Not all FCS under 4 members are up to no good. Chill and put the pitch forks down. Lol
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  9. #18
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    Rinuko's Avatar
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    Lele Inoch
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    Zodiark
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    Level 1 characters cannot contribute materials to the workshop.
    Yes you can. You may not be able to CRAFT the materials but nothing stops you from getting it through other sources. You just need to be a lv1 or higher crafter.

    Rest of your points is pretty stupid to me. You have a lot of personal assumptions and no facts.
    I agree with what worldofneil already stated.
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  10. #19
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    Faeon Nightwhisper
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tashantir View Post
    Square should totally take a look at this. Ragnarok is a big enough world with a lot of people for this "FCs" to own all the plots for themselves, while they only have 1-2 members in the FC and the owners doesn't even have enough level to own a house.
    There are a lot of valid Free companies with small houses or not even a small house that would really enjoy the housing system and they can't cause of this egoist people.
    Yup rag is that way ghost fc's buying all wards. I would still like know what do they do with all those houses, do they just use it to sell for gil?
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  11. #20
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    Gwen Geroux
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Rinuko View Post
    Yes you can. You may not be able to CRAFT the materials but nothing stops you from getting it through other sources. You just need to be a lv1 or higher crafter.
    Um... No. You need to be the correct lvl so you can provide the materials. So you can do nothing with a lvl 1 character.

    Problem here is not a 1 person FC. Problem here is when this person is obviously not a player, starting with the name, ending with the lvl. People want to have as many houses as they can, because, hey, more is better. And f*** the others. Right?

    SE should change a bit the rules, including something about keeping a house, not just purchasing it.
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