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  1. #71
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    Balmung is a metropolis. It is an extremely large population tucked away into a limited space. Like any metropolis it's residents have access to a greater number of goods, people, and opportunities. It bustles with activity and drives a large economy. However, space is limited and many extra people compete for what space there is. So, like a real metropolis, a large percentage of it's residents will not own a home.

    Coeurl is a town. It's got a lower population spread out over it's area. With fewer people comes a smaller economy, fewer opportunities as there are less people creating them, and less selection in goods as there are fewer crafters at work at any given time. However, with a smaller population you see a larger percentage of home ownership because that same amount of houses goes further for the population.

    Servers really are like cities. Real-life cities in heavily populated areas cannot expand without swallowing their neighbors and if their neighbors resist their attempts...then they don't get that extra space. They build up, not out. Balmung cannot steal more space from Coeurl, from Zalera, or from Goblin to feed their needs so Balmung's personal housing needs can and should be met by the addition of new apartments, not new wards. Those individuals who just cannot live in an apartment and need their own space are now faced with the same option that real life people have and move to the burbs. Or get creative and use alts to 'commute'.
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  2. #72
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    If housing is still that big of an issue on congested servers maybe they should look into un-grandfathering in people with multiple houses on these servers... that should free up a few houses...
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    I disagree balmung should NOT get special treatment if people want a house in a ward so badly they should transfer it really is that simple. As an example I will use your analogy. What happens in real life when a city is over populated and there is no work? people look for jobs/homes in other cities. So it really is simple how to fix balmungs population problem and it isn't SE I am looking at I am actually looking at the people of balmung themselves. They are the ones to blame when it comes to over population and they are to blame for staying on a overpopulated server and they are also to blame for swarming balmung as soon as the server was unlocked for transfers/character creation.(SE is to be blamed for even unlocking balmung in the first place.)

    So again Balmung players have two choices either stick with the over crowded server or transfer to a less populated server to get that sweet house they want.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vonleo View Post
    I disagree balmung should NOT get special treatment if people want a house in a ward so badly they should transfer it really is that simple. As an example I will use your analogy. What happens in real life when a city is over populated and there is no work? people look for jobs/homes in other cities.
    So you're agreeing with me? Because I think you need to re-read the last line where I told them to move or commute via alts?

    My point about apartments was that SE already said they were looking to apartment improvements and also that they could be more dynamic with when and how they added them. Thus, servers (not just Balmung) can get more apartments before more wards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keridwyn View Post
    So you're agreeing with me? Because I think you need to re-read the last line where I told them to move or commute via alts?

    My point about apartments was that SE already said they were looking to apartment improvements and also that they could be more dynamic with when and how they added them. Thus, servers (not just Balmung) can get more apartments before more wards.
    Big problem with apartments tho is that for "role players" apartments arent enough they want to have a "neighborhood" feeling so wards are what they are gunning for.
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    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vonleo View Post
    Big problem with apartments tho is that for "role players" apartments arent enough they want to have a "neighborhood" feeling so wards are what they are gunning for.
    So roleplay that your character has an apartment... problem solved...
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vonleo View Post
    Big problem with apartments tho is that for "role players" apartments arent enough they want to have a "neighborhood" feeling so wards are what they are gunning for.
    I have seen a lot more people arguing that they're small (which they are) and lacking gardening. Also Balmung folks aren't the only ones against the removal of wards, a lot of folks like the neighborhood feel as you see whenever the argument for the removal of wards is raised.

    But with the devs looking into apartment changes we might seen them start actually being an alternative for people who want personal space. Houses will remain a luxury good and a goal but folks might not be completely locked out of things.

    FCs would still be up the creek until new wards come out.
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  8. #78
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    Yeah bigger apartments could help but the complaining wouldn't stop people want the best and if they see others have something like ward housing and they are stuck with apartments then you know they will complain it will either have to be full instance or full wards at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
    If housing is still that big of an issue on congested servers maybe they should look into un-grandfathering in people with multiple houses on these servers... that should free up a few houses...
    You'd free up a dozen houses at most, wouldn't help much at all.
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