Housing

[Tinibou]

That was weird because there was like 30 players on the same plot and still I was able to buy the plot.

I am happy I could finally buy a plot but I still think the system is awful for the game.

[Aellae]

Odin: Seems like every area is sold except Goblet which has like, I don't know, 40ish small houses open.

[Xenor]

I came home from work yesterday looking forward to finally being able to purchase a house. I saw about two dozen plots available so I decided which one to go after. When I ran there I found I was unable to purchase the plot because it was not ready for sale. So I tried another, and another, and another half dozen. Every single one of them was unavailable for purchase.

What kind of horrible system is this? If plots are unavailable then they be marked as such on the ward selection screen. People were running around like headless chickens on Ragnarok last night trying to find a plot that was available for purchase, with no luck.

I come home from work tonight and find there is only about half a dozen plots available in total, and again they are not ready for purchase. I've given up.

[Xenor]

The only way to fix housing in this game is to have a 1.23 style cataclysmic event totally destroy every ward available and start again with a system that works. They are never going to solve the problems with the current system unless they add 100 more wards.

The worst part about it all is I used to own a house, but because I had to stop playing for a short period I had it taken from me. I understand why they do that, but to me that is an indicator of bad design rather than a solution. You shouldn't have large purchases confiscated from you for taking a break.

[ManuelBravo]

The only way to fix housing in this game is to have a 1.23 style cataclysmic event totally destroy every ward available and start again with a system that works. They are never going to solve the problems with the current system unless they add 100 more wards.

The worst part about it all is I used to own a house, but because I had to stop playing for a short period I had it taken from me. I understand why they do that, but to me that is an indicator of bad design rather than a solution. You shouldn't have large purchases confiscated from you for taking a break.

So because of your short comings we should nuke and start over -.- lol funny, people think is an easy solution. They will eventually b e adding more plots and are making it so that RTM traders add flipping houses won't become an issue. It will take time. Just like you had to quit on your own, knowing their was a deadline, why should SE hold on to houses for non paying members? Got to pay to play. The real fix is as follows; be patient, join an FC in the meant time.

[Xenor]

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Bad design is bad design - that's not the players' problem.

I actually like the solution they've put in to deter people from selling houses, they just need to fix the UI so that people don't have to run around like headless chickens checking every plot that looks empty to see if it's actually purchasable. It's up there with the market wards from 1.0 where you had to go in and check each retainer to see if it had the item you wanted. Just mark them as unavailable in the UI and problem solved on that front.

As for nuking - most people seem to agree that the small houses suck. Nuking the wards and starting again would allow SE to provide bigger houses for more people. They could also use a system that doesn't rely on having a set number of plots. Separate FC and personal housing while they're at it.

Everyone on the server should be able to have a house if they wish to - there is no valid argument against that so don't try.

[Divinemights]

Bad design is bad design - that's not the players' problem.

This is very typical Millenials thinking.
No thanks, pass.

[MeridaQ]

Bad design is bad design - that's not the players' problem.

I actually like the solution they've put in to deter people from selling houses, they just need to fix the UI so that people don't have to run around like headless chickens checking every plot that looks empty to see if it's actually purchasable. It's up there with the market wards from 1.0 where you had to go in and check each retainer to see if it had the item you wanted. Just mark them as unavailable in the UI and problem solved on that front.

Just a tip for next time you want to know if a house is available for purchase you should check the price. If the current price of the plot is the starting max price then it probably has a demo timer. If the price is devalued a good bit then it can probably be purchased. Every time someone relocates the price of the houses reset, this will give you a good gauge if you should be running around the wards to try and buy some.

[Xenor]

Just a tip for next time you want to know if a house is available for purchase you should check the price. If the current price of the plot is the starting max price then it probably has a demo timer. If the price is devalued a good bit then it can probably be purchased. Every time someone relocates the price of the houses reset, this will give you a good gauge if you should be running around the wards to try and buy some.

Thanks. That's good info, but it really shouldn't be like that.

I think there's only one plot left on Ragnarok now and there's about 10 people camping it.

I think there's something to be said about the distribution of housing ward resources too. Why should a small population server get allocated the same number of resources as a large population server? If there are finite resources then they should be distributed on a percentage basis of where the players actually are.

[ManuelBravo]

Bad design is bad design - that's not the players' problem.

I actually like the solution they've put in to deter people from selling houses, they just need to fix the UI so that people don't have to run around like headless chickens checking every plot that looks empty to see if it's actually purchasable. It's up there with the market wards from 1.0 where you had to go in and check each retainer to see if it had the item you wanted. Just mark them as unavailable in the UI and problem solved on that front.

As for nuking - most people seem to agree that the small houses suck. Nuking the wards and starting again would allow SE to provide bigger houses for more people. They could also use a system that doesn't rely on having a set number of plots. Separate FC and personal housing while they're at it.

Everyone on the server should be able to have a house if they wish to - there is no valid argument against that so don't try.

Funny they do show the plots so they don't have to go running around like a chicken with out a head. When selecting wards they can see plots and status just like in RL you look at listings then go check them out.

You call it poor design I call it most people are broke regardless who still complain gill is hard to come by.

Housing is an optional content and if people join FC they have some options as well. Apartments are also optional and inn rooms are provided as well so players can rest and accumulate rest xp bonus. SE takes into consideration accounts not being active so its only a waste of resources as well. Holding houses for inactive accounts even if they don't pay is just a poor business decision. Why maintain account that have been inactive or don't pay? SE warns when houses are going to be demolish via email and gives options. It's not SE fault if people don't check their email it's an internet based business. In most cases people buy houses and don't fully understand the consequences of being inactive.

So yes there is a valid argument, and just like a real home guess what if you don't pay your mortgage/rent you get evicted, you don't pay your taxed you get a lean, ect. Sorry landlord I went on vacation I don't need to pay rent does not cut it.

Overall people need to take initiative when adding wards, request time off from work, have gill saved up, ect. I was able to flip houses back and forth in Balmung of all servers so it was not difficult to get a home for those of us that think outside the box. SE said fine people complain we will make it harder because FC's should get priority, their was a way around to get personal home. Now their still plots available and people still complain. It's not big enough, it's not facing the correct direction, blah blah blah. If people want to play house their always The sims.