I can't even purchase a private house. I meet all the requirements. I wanted a private house, I should be mad but I don't care. I have access to 2 friends plots and our large fc. So I am still good anyway.
Pretty sure it was recolated to. Tried 4 houses all were like this just said nope not worth the hassle cant even tell if a house is being relocated to or locked.
Last edited by Jxnibbles; 02-20-2018 at 09:16 PM.
The one solution that gets tossed around most often is to leave wards as they are and develop instanced housing alongside it, based on the already existing apartments system. The only problem is that we don't really know how much would that help with the servers capacity issue. An issue which, on its own, leaves me a bit perplexed because in more than a decade of playing various MMOs I've never seen a triple-A game this plagued by that particular problem.
Oh, I know perfectly well that wards can work well enough in practice. All that I was pointing out is that FFXIV devs seem to be unable to make them work, judging by how much time have passed since housing was first introduced into this game.
TLDR for people who don't want to waste their time: it's the usual rambling that boils down to the old times were better and muh right to feel special in a video game.
I'm still scratching my head at how my server (Omega) has so many houses left. Including a handful of larges (1 in Mist, 1 in Lavender Beds and quite a few in Goblet).
I felt for sure they'd all be gone, including the small of which there are hundreds left, within 5 minutes.
My hubby and I played WoW from vanilla launch for over 8 yrs, hit SWtOR for almost 5 then Wildstar a while. I missed the creation of housing in WoW but SW wasn't bad and similar game play to here and WoW. Wild Star which is F2P now has the best housing bar none. I just didn't like the elite dungeons so I didn't stay longer. I am less than impressed with housing in FF but it was what drew us here and it's better than nothing.
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Tons of smalls left on Hyperion still and its a fairly populated server
Edit: I guess its that new timer system?
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If they are adamant to keep wards as they are, then they would be better served by adding instanced housing in addition. Which actually, they already did...with apartments. But they're terrible. I don't get why they don't work on improving the already functioning instanced housing so that their PAYING CUSTOMERS can be happy. I'm sure plenty of people would be just as happy if they could have a larger apartment, access to gardening and maybe if you gave them an instanced backyard. And allow FCs to have apartments with access to workshops.
Simple answer to the problem is right in front of them. Don't know why they won't act on it though. /shrugs
That being said, it seems on most servers many people are able to get housing. In smaller servers like mine, even 3 hours later there are still entire wards empty in some places. I think we're alright now but the larger servers are still struggling.
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YoshiP himself has mused about "large apartments", or condos as I like to call them. Their main advantage is that they're fully instanced. There's a key difference:
- Apartments (and housing interiors) are fully instanced. They're only "live" on the server when someone is using them, and when they're empty they can be shut down and removed from RAM entirely. If your server has a capacity of (made up numbers) 2000 characters logged in at once and a total character pool of 25,000, you only need active capacity for 2000 instanced houses. You could give everyone four houses to be silly, and you STILL only need active capacity for 2000 houses. And that's assuming your entire concurrent login pool are all inside houses. In reality you just need room for instances and don't care a ton if they're apartments or dungeons. This lets you efficiently allocate server resources based on what players are doing, and nets you higher active player capacity for a given set of hardware. Instancing is popular for precisely this reason.
You just need persistent storage (aka: disk/data store) for the data belonging to all the ones that aren't active, and persistent storage is the cheapest thing to acquire more of on the back end.
- Wards (and housing exteriors, as they're in the wards) are treated as zones. That is, they're always active. Ward 6 is always running, even if nobody is in it. That means it's always consuming server RAM and likely a bit of CPU. Adding more wards means consuming more RAM, all the time, no matter if anyone is using it or not. So in this case, more houses means more resource cost, all the time, no matter what people are doing. You can't deallocate this and devote it to dungeons instead the way you can with the instanced housing interiors, it's an ongoing resource cost you have to live with forever.
For various reasons that have a lot to do with poor decisions made in 1.0, server budget is a real problem for this game. They're always tight on capacity. Thus, jacking the ward count up to 50 to make the problem go away carries major costs and they don't want to do it. Apartments don't carry the same costs, but again going back to design decisions (this time in 2.0), apartments weren't built to be resizable or to have exterior furnishing/gardening access. So they're currently inferior to houses. Given their current limitations, it makes more sense for them to devote the development budget to making apartments better than it does to pile on tons of wards, because once the bigger apartments exist they will not have to have that large ongoing cost to give every character access to one the way that adding enough wards to do so would, especially on a server like Balmug.
While other games have done this, that ship has largely sailed here. It would be hugely expensive to rework the whole thing now and I doubt we'd ever see it happen. Hence restrictions like 1 house per account, whereas apartments are much more of a free for all. I wouldn't be surprised to see apartment improvements in the future, either. It's the more scaleable of the two systems.
Maybe demand is finally dying down, people have finally been burned enough to not want to wake up early on a weekday or aren't going to take time off work for a diceroll chance at something in a game? It's been a fairly traditional disappointment for a lot of people, I imagine quite a few are sick of it.
edit: Looking around there are quite a few plots still in the non-shirogane areas, tons in goblet of course. We'll see how much is there after a day or so and people who are done with playing the housing rush get home to see some plots still available.
Last edited by Dustytome; 02-21-2018 at 06:36 AM.
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