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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    I saw just as many (i.e. 100%) of Zurvan PFs on the JP Datacenters demanding Soar skip when that was current content... Since when were JP considered as excluded from cheese strats?
    Generally speaking, JP uses the RF and DF and leaves PF for learning parties. It would not surprise me if you were on the DC for Tonberry and were seeing PFs from English speakers using the NA/EU strats. Seeing as they were, apparently, using PF just as the players on NA and EU do.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyDevo View Post
    Wait, hold up.

    The playerbase finds a use for tank lb3, and it isn't:
    1) Literally necessary to complete the fight
    2) worse to use than just another dps lb3

    And people are calling it cheese?

    In a thread complaining about a restriction that broadens class variety in party composition?

    What the hell?

    Lemme just say these things, and I'm almost willing to just outright state them as facts.
    - This tank lb3 strategy is a wonderful and clever deviation from the norm, and I would love to see more fights where an LB3 other than dps LB3 is a party dps gain.
    I'd love a fight where it's required to use a healer LB3, just to break from the norm. Other than making A4S less of a pain in the ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    Generally speaking, JP uses the RF and DF and leaves PF for learning parties. It would not surprise me if you were on the DC for Tonberry and were seeing PFs from English speakers using the NA/EU strats. Seeing as they were, apparently, using PF just as the players on NA and EU do.
    I've seen these in RF/DF as well. And the PFs were in Japanese so I'm not sure where the "English speakers" assumption is coming from.

    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    I'd love a fight where it's required to use a healer LB3, just to break from the norm. Other than making A4S less of a pain in the ass.
    Same. Though unless the whole fight is built around the idea of required deaths, I suspect PLD may become required for the prior Cover. That'd still be refreshing even then, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Same. Though unless the whole fight is built around the idea of required deaths, I suspect PLD may become required for the prior Cover. That'd still be refreshing even then, though.
    To my understanding O4S did have mechanics that required party members to die (specifically to other mechanics and not falling off the arena), so it's a possibility. Personally the reason I like the tank lb strat in Byakko is BECAUSE it isn't needed but is something viable, which Healer LB3 essentially is in quite a bit more content itself (though much more unplanned.) But I wouldn't be unopposed to such a thing...if the Bahamut vids aren't lieing to me technically Phoenix currently has the monopoly on required Healer lb3s casted
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    To my understanding O4S did have mechanics that required party members to die (specifically to other mechanics and not falling off the arena), so it's a possibility. Personally the reason I like the tank lb strat in Byakko is BECAUSE it isn't needed but is something viable, which Healer LB3 essentially is in quite a bit more content itself (though much more unplanned.) But I wouldn't be unopposed to such a thing...if the Bahamut vids aren't lieing to me technically Phoenix currently has the monopoly on required Healer lb3s casted
    I mean, you had to cleanse a debuff by hitting 1 HP when said debuff also prevented you from dropping beneath 1 HP, like a reversed Living Dead, but, I meant the... corpse-y kind of death.

    Have you seen the Argus (Heroic or Mythic) fight from World of Warcraft: Legion? It plays with the concept of death a fair bit. If not, but curious, the "Fatboss" channel on Youtube covers it.
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