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    aeoncs's Avatar
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    Zael Magnus
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    Shiva
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dejavu56 View Post
    Any SAM dies of gimmick and dps lower than 1st place should be kicked, just saying.
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    The only job a good SAM should have to fight against is a good BLM.
    Ah, yes. The official forums where ignorance is bliss. SAM gets shit on by BLM in every possible scenario (with the exception being V6S) and only beats Summoner in V6S and V8S. I mean, in Byakko EX SAM is like 4th to 5th place right now.

    Topic: TC, if people are seriously kicking you for the job you're playing, which I've never experienced myself, they're not the kind of people you want to be clearing/farming stuff with anyway - they're most likely the same people who threaten with a kick for messing up while dying to every third mechanic themselves.
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    Last edited by aeoncs; 02-21-2018 at 01:31 AM.

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    Claire_Pendragon's Avatar
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by aeoncs View Post
    Ah, yes. The official forums where ignorance is bliss. SAM gets shit on by BLM in every possible scenario (with the exception being V6S) and only beats Summoner in V6S and V8S. I mean, in Byakko EX SAM is like 4th to 5th place right now.
    Im curious as to what most BLMs and SAMs are doing there. the BLm we picked up in a clear PT last night did 7k DPS.
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    Im curious as to what most BLMs and SAMs are doing there. the BLm we picked up in a clear PT last night did 7k DPS.
    I suspect it's more because V6S is more or less a target dummy, SAMs can maintain far better uptime whereas the rest impact them pretty heavily.
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    I suspect it's more because V6S is more or less a target dummy, SAMs can maintain far better uptime whereas the rest impact them pretty heavily.
    I know, but im just curious as to what numbers SAMs are getting.
    When we ran with pug SAMs, they ranged from 3.5k to 5.1k (most in the 4.8k range)
    So I assumed BLm did more DPS than SAM there, so I was surprised to hear they said SAMs are doing better than BLMs there. (We've only ever had that 1 BLM, so idk whats normal for BLM there.)

    Plus, when we had the SAM who did 5.1k DPS, he was ripping threat off our WAR MT, who, was doing 4k DPS, using unchained after every zerk window, until it was time to fell cleave, getting voke/shirked by the PLD, and the SAM was using diversion the moment it was off CD. (We checked fflogs to make sure)
    PLD was doing 3k DPS.

    The SAM was holding back on DPS, in order to not get Tank Bustered constantly (He was getting killed by the tank buster every fight, so he stopped trying as hard). So We know he could have done more DPS, but we werent sure how much more he could have done, considering our group was pretty much maxing out what a non tank stance tank can generate in threat, w/o a NIN.
    (I should also mention our group doesnt try to align raid buffs, so theres a bit of RNG added to when they go off, but we all try to pop them roughly at the same points in the fight. SAM, MNK, RDM and BRD in the case of a SAM pugged)
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    Last edited by Claire_Pendragon; 02-23-2018 at 03:32 AM.
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