Developers, Please Address Samurai Kicking

[Aylis]

There's no reason your other subscribers should be given authority to tell people what they can and can't play as.

To be blunt, yes they can. This is something that's been a thing in every MMO ever. I've been subjected to it as well plenty of times. It sucks, but it is what is is, you can't force others to play with you if they don't want your particular class no matter how good you may be with it or how well your gear is. I'm sorry but as MMO players this is just one of the things we have to accept and get used to. As others have said the best way around it is by forming your own party and seeing who bites. There are as many out there who don't care about class makeup as much as there are those that do.

[Hieral]

I'm on your datacentre, I've PF'd with many SAMs and BLMs, never seen a kick due to their class.

Sure its your class and not you?

Positive. Here you go. I may not be 100. But I don't suck at what I do. And this is only the stuff that's been uploaded.

https://www.fflogs.com/rankings/character/356993/15/

[Altera]

Vote kick cannot be used within the first 5 minutes of a dungeon. So... how exactly did you get vote kicked right after everyone loaded in? It's not even possible. 5 minutes must pass before any of them could initiate a vote kick.

So I don't know about this...either you are outright lying to exaggerate, making a joke, or are very confused?

I was remembering wrong, the other DPS and Tank DCed as we loaded, and we waited for them to return, and before the first trashpull, I was votekicked.

[Jijifli]

That's a bit of an elitist statement. You obviously haven't seen what a really good BLM has been able to put out lately. Not to mention that with the right setup, a DRG/NIN team can outright own a good chunk of the DPS. If you are the type that kicks for a SAM not being in first place, then wow...

If you're with a DRG/NIN, aren't they also buffing the SAM?

SAM brings no utility. If they aren't doing the most damage in the party, they are a wasted slot. That's not trying to be elitist. That's how the job is designed. The only job a good SAM should have to fight against is a good BLM.

[HyoMinPark]

I have never encountered this myself on my DC. However I dont think you can report anyone for kicking as SE say "Players different playstyle" isnt a valid reason for report or violation i should say.

"Difference in playstyles" actually is a valid reason to kick a player; this has been confirmed by GMs themselves. Unless you can prove with in-game chat logs that a kick was outright malicious, the GMs won't do anything about it.

PF role restrictions do not fall into any reportable offense. When a party leader creates their PF, they set the rules for what they want. If they want full META, they have the right to ask for it. If they want all-Roe non-META, same thing.

[Awha]

When you join a PF you agree to the terms set by the leader. Sure it would be nice if they advertised their PF requirements so you do not waste their time or yours, but as far I know that is not required.

Do not take it personal, if they removed you from the group for such a reason it clearly was not a group you would want to be a part of. Your best bet is either make your own group, or join a group of like minded individuals and just show you are a quality player building up a positive reputation.

[Mahrze]

When you join a PF you agree to the terms set by the leader. Sure it would be nice if they advertised their PF requirements so you do not waste their time or yours.

What do you do tho, when the PF is open on DPS and because you're a "non-meta" class and you get kicked because of that, even when the PF did not define DPS jobs in particular?

if PF leader makes an open DPS slot and then kicks cuz he gets a sam or a blm, the one who joins isn't at fault.

[Awha]

What do you do tho, when the PF is open on DPS and because you're a "non-meta" class and you get kicked because of that, even when the PF did not define DPS jobs in particular?

if PF leader makes an open DPS slot and then kicks cuz he gets a sam or a blm, the one who joins isn't at fault.

As I said it would be nice if they listed their requirements so players do not waste their personal time or the time of the PF group, but to my knowledge by no means are they required to do so

[Mahrze]

As I said it would be nice if they listed their requirements so players do not waste their personal time or the time of the PF group, but by no means are they required to do so.

They technically are, but we're gonna disagree till the end of time, so we can leave it at that.

[Bacent]

This isnt just a SAM problem. I have encountered issued like this playing my BLM. I even got votekicked out of a EX Roulette as soon as everyone was loaded in :/

This really reminds me of someone who went around claiming that 'Shadow Flare only tickles enemies' and 'Thunder is a waste of a spell and not needed in rotations' a few years ago without doing the math.

Also reminds me of rumours in high school, where it starts out with something small, and then becomes Purple Monkey Dishwasher