Developers, Please Address Samurai Kicking

[Nerfworthy]

I have the unpopular opinion that Samurai should have been a Tank. DPS roles had been bloated before StormBlood, adding only DPS was certain cause issues. Look at that... Samurai was designed with no utility, thematically contrived (we already had Monk and Ninja as our far eastern flavor melee DPS jobs), and now reports that it's underwhelming it needs to "fixed" with additional changes to make it viable when it's design hinged on big crit, pose tropes...

I agree with your unpopular opinion :X I think SAM would've been so much cooler as a tank, and more in demand as well. But alas. Hopefully we get tank+healer in 5.0 to balance things out a bit.

[Jijifli]

I agree with your unpopular opinion :X I think SAM would've been so much cooler as a tank, and more in demand as well. But alas. Hopefully we get tank+healer in 5.0 to balance things out a bit.

Given how parrying with a Katana is a pretty easy way to ruin your blade, as it's really good for slashing and not for parrying, I wanna know how you'd make that work.

Plus after DRK didn't actually increase tank popuation once the hype train died by 3.1... It could have just been left dead.

[Nerfworthy]

Given how parrying with a Katana is a pretty easy way to ruin your blade, as it's really good for slashing and not for parrying, I wanna know how you'd make that work.

In a game where we ride dragons and flying horses and create magic out of thin air, and you're questioning how SAM would tank with a katana? o.0

[Jijifli]

In a game where we ride dragons and flying horses and create magic out of thin air, and you're questioning how SAM would tank with a katana? o.0

First, Ananta's Elephant would have made a better example. And we aren't making magic out of thin air, there is a resource. CNJ uses elementals to assist, THM and ACN have their own inner pools, WHM/BLM use Hydaelyn for their resource and caused their own calamity issues that forced those magics to be, lore wise, illegal to access, etc.

But I guess Square could just make some dumb excuse like the katanas are made of this very specific material that can parry anything with no punishments. It's not like the point of the Katana itself is that it's made to be super fast, which makes it bad for parrying due to the design. It should funtion like a greatsword, BLOCK THAT ROCK!

[Alacran]

Given how parrying with a Katana is a pretty easy way to ruin your blade, as it's really good for slashing and not for parrying, I wanna know how you'd make that work.

Plus after DRK didn't actually increase tank popuation once the hype train died by 3.1... It could have just been left dead.

And cutting down magi tek vehicles, stone golems, Alagan created abominations, ect... Is completely believable? As is the code of bushidio that favors attacking your opponents from behind? Funny that.

Samurai as it was given to us in StormBlood should have been called Ronin. Ronin did not have the money or influence to afford armour and weapons and as such became mercenaries to survive. Samurai had their lords favor and equipment to protect their lords lands and people. There was a difference.

Ronin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C5%8Dnin

Samurai
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samurai

[aesteval]

If you're with a DRG/NIN, aren't they also buffing the SAM?

SAM brings no utility. If they aren't doing the most damage in the party, they are a wasted slot. That's not trying to be elitist. That's how the job is designed. The only job a good SAM should have to fight against is a good BLM.

That may be the way the job was intended, but take a look at the current Circles of Answering dummies. These are solo dummies calibrated by the devs of what they expect any given job to do when the dummy was designed. SAM has lost ground to the buffs that have hit the older jobs. Compare Deltascape Savage to Sigmascape Savage Circle of Answering dummies.

[ReplicaX]

That may be the way the job was intended, but take a look at the current Circles of Answering dummies. These are solo dummies calibrated by the devs of what they expect any given job to do when the dummy was designed. SAM has lost ground to the buffs that have hit the older jobs. Compare Deltascape Savage to Sigmascape Savage Circle of Answering dummies.

The Circle of Answering has been tested by many to show it isn't calibrated to job specific. More defined role specific (Melee DPS, Rng DPS, etc) so jobs with higher utility and less DPS that meet ilvl requirements prior to (overgearing) couldn't pass many of them with their optimal rotations. Yet, they perform perfectly fine in the content itself.

[Adventica6]

Looks like the devs are fine with sams being kicked / blacklisted in all content.

Why make a new class at all then if everyone just hates it ? sell lemonade or something.

[HyoMinPark]

Looks like the devs are fine with sams being kicked / blacklisted in all content.

I mean, I never see this rampant blacklisting on Aether......

[Mavrias]

I mean, I never see this rampant blacklisting on Aether......

Don't see it on Primal either. Odd.