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    (request) Duty roulette: raid

    So I'm not much of a raider, but I've done old extreme content along with alliance raids, so pretty casual stuff. I just went to go try and start the deltascape (I only plan on completing the normal mode of Delta/sigma) but I've ran into a wall. When I try and que up for deltascape V1.0 there just isn't enough people also queing for deltascape V1.0 (sat in a que for 1 hour with 1 tank, me as the only healer, and 4 dps) and to my knowledge this raid content doesn't pull from any roulettes. I was over joyed when they announced alliance raid roulettes because not only did it give do a short que time but it allowed me and many others to do old content which we otherwise wouldn't be able to do.
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    It's been under consideration for a while which means it is probably happening but who knows how many months until it's implemented. At the moment these raids are only included into mentor roulette and would otherwise take much longer to pop or not at all if not for mentors. I love when alex/omega come up in mentor roulette and got those several times today.
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    I've always considered this not raids but trials...if not high end trials...but that's just me.

    In any case - Your better off making a PF for it and then queuing up when you have sufficient numbers. I'f you've not cleared it yet - I'm sure a large number of people will come out of the woodwork for the bonus.
    As for Sigma...you'll find its VERY popular just after reset....as the rewards are weekly.
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    Strea Leonhart
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    Honestly Raid Roulette would be a breath of fresh air since since not everyone has cleared Coils of Bahamut and Alexander raids(mostly because of getting into the game late or out of not wanting to do it). They did it for Alliance Raids, so what is stopping them from doing the same thing for standard raids?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    They did it for Alliance Raids, so what is stopping them from doing the same thing for standard raids?
    My guess would be difficulty. The difference in difficulty from the easiest 8 man level to the hardest is FAR greater then the difference from easiest 24 man to hardest. A group that breezed through binding coil turn 4(T4) might stumble on burden of the son(A8). A group that hiccuped on burden of the son would be lucky to get out of the first phase of second coil turn 4(T9). Ive seen half a raid wiped out by 24 man mechanics that got botched and we still pulled out the fight. Some of the harder 8 mans require so much coordination and fight knowledge that even one person not doing their part right can wreck the whole effort.

    Im not saying im against the idea(or the alternative version where you cut out the harder fights from the list to make it more newbie friendly), but it could end up being a lot of pain for little gain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    Honestly Raid Roulette would be a breath of fresh air since since not everyone has cleared Coils of Bahamut and Alexander raids
    Binding Coil, Second Coil, and Final Coil should not be in a raid roulette because they are savage content. Keep in mind that there are still people who fail Second Coil Turn 4 (T9) unsyncked at 70.

    If a Duty Roulette: Full Party Raids was added, it should only include Alexander and Omega, and only their story versions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    Binding Coil, Second Coil, and Final Coil should not be in a raid roulette because they are savage content. Keep in mind that there are still people who fail Second Coil Turn 4 (T9) unsyncked at 70.

    If a Duty Roulette: Full Party Raids was added, it should only include Alexander and Omega, and only their story versions.
    Second Coil is the only ARR raid with a normal mode and a Savage mode, meaning they would have to slightly nerf the other normal modes Coils of Bahamut and give them a Savage mode(which is pointless at this stage of FF14's life), making Coils of Bahamut feel more empty than they are now...


    Also try doing T9 Synced.since you might have better luck clearing with it synced...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    Second Coil is the only ARR raid with a normal mode and a Savage mode
    No, the base raids were the Savages of their day. Their mechanics are designed for coordinated raiding parties. They should therefore not be in a duty roulette, as this will waste many people's time and pull DR people away from the Alexander and Omega story raids, which can be done by a party of strangers with newbies.

    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    Also try doing T9 Synced.since you might have better luck clearing with it synced...
    Are you serious? I can't tell if you're trying to be serious.
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    Last edited by Rongway; 03-30-2018 at 10:52 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    Are you serious? I can't tell if you're trying to be serious.
    Very serious...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    Very serious...
    Do you hear that sound? That's the crowd rofling at your post.
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