Aggressive Gold Sinks

[chocolatebabysundae]

You really don't need a ton of gil for a lot of things in this game and that's fine. Capped on gil with nothing else to do in game? Go take a break.

Inflation is only a problem when there are a lack of crafters/gatherers interested in playing the market. Just like someone else mentioned in this topic. This is a player issue and not a game issue.

[Awha]

Please let us buy larger amounts of MGP. I am far too lazy to farm the MGP, but I certainly have more then enough gil. I wish this game provided more vanity items so I can have something to spend my Gil on.

You could always start handing gil out to new players....because I can tell you right now....just because YOU can make gil like crazy...and know of OTHERS who can..doesn't mean EVERYONE can.

Generosity can have a major impact on the game.

Thing is it so wrong to have items for those that have the money? Also what would we gain giving money away to others? If they add a vendor that has items that we can purchase for large amounts of gil we get something out of it. Giving someone money for no reason is certainly not something many will be interested in.

[Canopia]

"750m gil mount" Why though?

to make the have nots more jealous of the haves? I will never see 750m gil in my lifetime... mainly because I dont play the MB as my endgame and find gil hoarding to be boring. the only ones it hurts is the people who are new and the people who dont find playing monopoly in XIV to be fun. in the end one such mount is just rewarding people who price gouge on the MB and encourage more of it.

[XovanPrince]

Why does this game need gold sinks? WHy does gold need to matter at all?

[Emerald_Swords]

#Nosupport.

[Anarnee]

They are non-essential items, nothing here is needed for anything but vanity/status. It doesn't hurt anyone to not have them or have to wait for them because you get no actual benefit from having them. I thought this was exceedingly clear from the original post and subsequent explanatory posts but I guess not?

Except the stuff on the MB is optional too. Like... There is literally nothing on the MB that you NEED to play the game. The only thing this would do is take dev time away from creating items that we all can enjoy, and funnel it into something that only a handful of individuals can enjoy.

And where if I really like an item that is hard to get right now, I could raise 10mil in a little while, but now if there is an item that I like it would be 200mil.

I understand the OP, I still say it makes no sense.

[MoroMurasaki]

Except the stuff on the MB is optional too. Like... There is literally nothing on the MB that you NEED to play the game. The only thing this would do is take dev time away from creating items that we all can enjoy, and funnel it into something that only a handful of individuals can enjoy.

And where if I really like an item that is hard to get right now, I could raise 10mil in a little while, but now if there is an item that I like it would be 200mil.

I understand the OP, I still say it makes no sense.

There are things people go to the market board for because they can't get them any other way. I would love for you to show me a crafter that didn't purchase gear or mats during the leveling process, I'm quite confident they don't exist.


Your speculation as to the number of people enjoying the proposed items is 100% irrelevant because you have no statistics on the number of players who have the requisite resources.

Your concern about liking an item and not being able to get it is similarly pointless - there is nothing stopping you from spending your time playing aimed towards a new goal. If you don't enjoy that kind of play then you don't get that item. This is no different than being unable to have the Alte Roite mount as a non-raider or unable to get PvP rewards as someone who doesn't PvP.... nothing is stopping you from doing those things just like nothing is stopping you from amassing a fortune and spending it on a sparkly pink kitten minion that flies by farting rainbows.

[addz3]

It's a interesting idea but as others have said this would only benefit a small amount of the population. And in all honesty the OP idea is doomed to fail because the items your suggesting will be found on mog station.

[Raven2014]

You could always start handing gil out to new players....because I can tell you right now....just because YOU can make gil like crazy...and know of OTHERS who can..doesn't mean EVERYONE can.

Generosity can have a major impact on the game.

Then I don't think you understand the meaning or impact of gold sink. The point of a gold sink is to "delete" gil from existence. Unlike the real world, the health of an MMO market depend a lot more on how much gil is in circulation and less about its distribution.

Put it this way, a rich crafter may feel generous and hand out gil to a new player. But that player will just use that gil to buy something from the MB, and it can be just something the crafter who gave him the gil to begin with. This means on a macro level, there was little difference before and after. You saw two transfer of gil, but the amount of gil lost (to pay MB's tax) is very minimal.

And yes, it does affect the buying power of new player. The average MB's price is based on not the wealth distribution, but the overall amount of gil in circulation. It doesn't matter who have how much, the more gil there are in the system, the higher inflation is, and the less buying power it has. This is why American's servers tend to have higher price on MB comparing to Japan's server. We have a bigger problem with bots, which essentially money printers that generate gil out of thin air, people buy gil, and thus inject large amount of gil into the system.

[Vhailor]

I love the game, SE. No disrespect, but this game badly need actual gold sinks. As it stands, the only real gold sinks worth anything is housing. With the growing player base, that simply isn't enough (by a fair amount) anymore. Most players can afford housing and, because they're limited and based on luck, they will only continue to rile the community up. This issue will never go away.

Gil is far too easy to come by and there is nothing outside of housing to really spend it on. This is the particular bane of the crafter/gatherers. I know many people who are gil capped -- some on multiple characters with their retainers capped as well. These people then drop out of the market altogether because there's no real point after getting capped.

We need NPC's that sell exclusive mounts, minions, glam, etc. for exorbitant amounts of gil to act as a gold sink and balance things out. I'm talking big amounts: 250m, 500m, or even 750m. People will buy them.

Now, I hear people saying "but Tempest, I just barely saved up for a house. How can I afford a 750m mount?" You probably won't be able to, not for a while. But MMOs NEED gold sinks to combat inflation. It'll benefit the markets across the board. It'll draw those end game crafters/gatherers who stopped making and selling stuff back, which will drop prices so you don't have to pay as much for those pots or food (warring crafters = price drops.) It'll also take some pressure off the housing situation. Housing is the only status symbol in the game, really. People aim for that because there isn't any choice.

Please at least consider it SE. Please! ;=;

I agree that real Gil sinks would be ideal, but I don't think your approach is the right one. Truly effective Gil sinks target significant majorities of the player base, rather than small minorities of super-wealthy players. Instead, I'd advise adding higher taxes on the Market Boards, significantly higher Teleport costs, moderately higher repair costs, and across-the-board significant increases for everything sold by NPCs.

That said, as an aside, this probably wouldn't solve the problem of the more profit-oriented omnicrafters capping out on Gil. There's relatively little that can be done there, because they'll always bring in Gil faster than they spend it, if they're trying to earn money. Anyone hitting the Gil cap and growing frustrated should really look in the mirror and ask themselves why in Eorzea they continue to craft for profit when there's no more need for it.