Aggressive Gold Sinks

[Alisi]

I love the game, SE. No disrespect, but this game badly need actual gold sinks. As it stands, the only real gold sinks worth anything is housing. With the growing player base, that simply isn't enough (by a fair amount) anymore. Most players can afford housing and, because they're limited and based on luck, they will only continue to rile the community up. This issue will never go away.

Gil is far too easy to come by and there is nothing outside of housing to really spend it on. This is the particular bane of the crafter/gatherers. I know many people who are gil capped -- some on multiple characters with their retainers capped as well. These people then drop out of the market altogether because there's no real point after getting capped.

We need NPC's that sell exclusive mounts, minions, glam, etc. for exorbitant amounts of gil to act as a gold sink and balance things out. I'm talking big amounts: 250m, 500m, or even 750m. People will buy them.

Now, I hear people saying "but Tempest, I just barely saved up for a house. How can I afford a 750m mount?" You probably won't be able to, not for a while. But MMOs NEED gold sinks to combat inflation. It'll benefit the markets across the board. It'll draw those end game crafters/gatherers who stopped making and selling stuff back, which will drop prices so you don't have to pay as much for those pots or food (warring crafters = price drops.) It'll also take some pressure off the housing situation. Housing is the only status symbol in the game, really. People aim for that because there isn't any choice.

Please at least consider it SE. Please! ;=;

[NephthysVasudan]

You could always start handing gil out to new players....because I can tell you right now....just because YOU can make gil like crazy...and know of OTHERS who can..doesn't mean EVERYONE can.

Generosity can have a major impact on the game.

[Alisi]

You could always start handing gil out to new players....because I can tell you right now....just because YOU can make gil like crazy...and know of OTHERS who can..doesn't mean EVERYONE can.

Yes, I am aware of this and, yes, I do help new players. However, gold sinks by their very nature are the best way to help new players. The issue with the MBs, and why things are expensive, is generally because of monopolies or near monopolies. This rises the prices of things across the board. Trade wars lower this and help new players acquire the things they need for less gil in general. As I said, crafters get gil capped and they drop out of the market because there's no point. Thereby eliminating competition and allowing more monopolies to flourish. Crafters who are battling each other for the sell will drive down those prices.

[ErryK]

"750m gil mount" Why though?

[Alisi]

"750m gil mount" Why though?

Because there are players with billions of gil out there. The cap is 1 billion on your character and retainers. The amount of gil in the game that's stored away is simply staggering. For someone who has 9+ billion, 750m is pocket change. But enough mounts with that price point will drain that away and bring more players back to the MB, which is good for everyone.

[NephthysVasudan]

Yes, I am aware of this and, yes, I do help new players. However, gold sinks by their very nature are the best way to help new players. The issue with the MBs, and why things are expensive, is generally because of monopolies or near monopolies. This rises the prices of things across the board. Trade wars lower this and help new players acquire the things they need for less gil in general. As I said, crafters get gil capped and they drop out of the market because there's no point. Thereby eliminating competition and allowing more monopolies to flourish. Crafters who are battling each other for the sell will drive down those prices.

I don't think you quite got my message...but oh well. (New Gold Sinks hurt new players because they aren't well off to start off with)

[Anarnee]

Things being expensive on the MB isn't that big of an issue though. Like what do we need from the MB that is so expensive that it's hurting players? Gear? Unless you're going for world first stuff you don't need it, and what else? Glamour? I think they're at reasonable prices tbh.

I'd really rather not have to think about needing to raise a few hundred mil for mounts, minions and glamour.

I like putting my gil towards the occasional big treat for myself off the market board, or a gift for a friend.

I'll spend 7mil on an orchestrion roll for a friends xmas gift.

But 200mil for some glamour stuff? I'll take the "inflated" items on the MB at 20mil over 200mil anyday.

[Violyre]

I don't know. Sure, you might have some people give up their masses of gil. But they'll probably get it back fairly quickly.

I also think this would encourage gil buying because people want their bling.

Does the gil just sitting there being unused really hurt people that much?

If you really want a gold sink, you need to have something that works more than a one-time thing. Buy a mount, and you're done. Being able to *craft* a mount and sell it to others, but have one item needed to make it be a bit more expensive and only from an NPC, that's a better sink than the one you propose because can be a constant source of gil draining.

[Sarevok_Thordin]

The Fashion report is something of a gold sink right now, once the 100 combination goes up on reddit people take control of the means to make the items there and jack the prices up SKY HIGH causing more and more gil to be erased in the taxes.

[Alisi]

I don't think you quite got my message...but oh well. (New Gold Sinks hurt new players because they aren't well off to start off with)

The gold sink items would be non-essentials. New players aren't well off. They can't compete against someone with half a billion gil. Sellers will drive others off. This is the monopolies/ near monopolies I'm talking about. Someone with a million can't compete with someone who has 500m. The person with more will drive their prices down to push people out. They do this all time. I've been at the receiving end of this personally a number of times. This makes it incredibly hard for new players to break into the market.

But 200mil for some glamour stuff? I'll take the "inflated" items on the MB at 20mil over 200mil anyday.

Perhaps not you personally, but some will and it'll help over the long run.

Does the gil just sitting there being unused really hurt people that much?

It makes all the difference during trade wars. Aggressive sellers are a thing in this game. People will try to drive you out of "their" market. Having a ton of gil laying about makes this simple. Someone with hundreds of millions of gil can afford the temporary loses taken to drive you out. They will drop the prices two, three, sometimes four times as much just to get rid of you. A new player with limited funds has a harder time dealing with that.