Growing tired of this Stigma

[Hruodig]

Honestly, my stigma against samurais have nothing to do with their lack of utility-it's because almost every single samurai I've played with in pf has been terrible. Like, less dps than me as a tank terrible. If my friend who lives in germany, plays on american servers, and has over 200 ping can do well on samurai, so can you.

[RyuDragnier]

I'm tired of it. As much as I want to enjoy my Samurai class in parties, I find myself often being excluded, removed and more just because we do nothing for the party. SMN, MNK, and even BLM can match and even outparse Samurai on damage while bringing a form of utility.

Please do something Dev Team. Please and thank you.

The stigma will fade with time as players get better...and when the next big class comes along everybody will jump to because it's the "cool" class. Had a lot of bad stigma towards BRDs in ARR at first because the vast majority of BRDs wouldn't use DoTs or songs. That was annoying since back then I was a BRD, but I wasn't allowed in many parties simply because people kept expecting BRDs to be horrible players and just had their own friends pick up the mantle. Once NIN came out, a lot of them jumped ship which helped clear the waters a bit of the stigma. Though we still had problems until HW completely blasted the bads out of BRD thanks to adding charge times. NIN seems to have lost a lot of bads (from what I can tell) and stigma since RDM and SAM came out (and I see a lot of bad RDM and SAM). You just have to prove yourself to groups that you're worth taking due to your high DPS and wait until the next bandwagon DPS class comes out to clear the bads from SAM and clear the stigma.

[whiskeybravo]

@OP

You seem like a fairly competent SAM, at least. I'd suggest maybe a bit of networking could help your cause. Knowing people can help a lot. I had a friend who was looking for a high end static but got stuck with groups that could barely kill v5s. Long story short, last week he joined up with high end group that he met through us when we were finishing up Deltascape, and now it looks like they will clear God Kefka this upcoming week. Complete 180 just because he was around to meme it up with us at the end of last patch lol. So that'd be all the advice I can offer until Sam gets a buff. Find some people that know you are good Sam and just try to network. I mean, even in my case I wouldn't lean towards picking up a random Sam if I had to replace a DPS, but if they were someone I knew or friends with I'd be more willing to give them a shot.

Hope that helps,

[TraeSnow]

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I see now, I feel kind of silly now that I completely forgot to factor non damage utility in. But yea, I get the point you were making now. Thanks.