Growing tired of this Stigma

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I'm sorry... did you just say MCH has been meta since it was added? I'm confused because that's what I read except I know that isn't true. I'm not being sassy or mean I am legitimately asking since maybe you meant something else.

AFAIK it has been. There were many saying NIN/DRG/BRD/MCH was meta throughout 3.0 and into 4.0

May have been later in 3.0 though. I stopped raiding during Gordias and didn't pick it back up until creator.

[HyoMinPark]

AFAIK it has been. There were many saying NIN/DRG/BRD/MCH was meta throughout 3.0 and into 4.0

May have been later in 3.0 though. I stopped raiding during Gordias and didn't pick it back up until creator.

Gordias and Midas depended on your comp, if you took BRD or MCH. If your comp was mostly physical, you took a MCH because Hypercharge buffed the physical jobs (and Hypercharging Rook Turret was better over Bishop, iirc). If you had casters (because BLM wasn't terrible for Gordias, and was still relatively good during Midas), you took BRD because Foe's was magical damage only.

BRD/MCH formed a truce in Creator, and that's when NIN/DRG/BRD/MCH became the DPS meta. NIN has been meta since its inception, and BRD/MCH were both buffed by DRG's Disembowel, and brought utility to the party, so they kicked out the casters then. So a little over a year ago, the DPS meta became what it is. It definitely wasn't meta through all of Heavensward because both BRD and MCH had lots of issues when 3.0 launched; BRD didn't become completely viable until 3.2 when they buffed it and fixed some of its issues, and MCH was worse off than BRD when 3.0 launched; I think it was fixed in 3.1.

Only job that was worse than MCH at 3.0 launch was AST. I remember one of my friends said people would straight up leave parties if there was an AST in it; that's how bad off they were.

[Miste]

Only job that was worse than MCH at 3.0 launch was AST. I remember one of my friends said people would straight up leave parties if there was an AST in it; that's how bad off they were.

I can add on to this with my experience since I immediately tried to main AST at 3.0 launch.

Basically I was forced to switch back to WHM by my static group even though I wanted to main AST.

Eventually I left that group, but no other groups would accept me as AST. Even by Midas people were still skeptical and most groups told me no, until I found one that let me play AST.

So in my experience back then majority of groups on my server just locked AST out or refused to take it. I basically couldn't find a static that would accept AST for all of Gordias and only found one after they got buffed for Midas, yet that even took a bit of convincing the raid leader that I was sure I could play it well and heal well on it...which in the end I did prove as such.