Growing tired of this Stigma

[Lorielle]

I'm tired of it. As much as I want to enjoy my Samurai class in parties, I find myself often being excluded, removed and more just because we do nothing for the party. SMN, MNK, and even BLM can match and even outparse Samurai on damage while bringing a form of utility.

Please do something Dev Team. Please and thank you.

[Kukajoo]

It sucks but i'd imagine its very hard to simply "do something" about it, you yourself didn't volunteer any ideas. At best we gotta hope the dev team is more conscious about handing out utility abilities to all classes that support the team, and hope for the best that next expac sam will get something to make it wanted in the meta.
In the meantime try looking for some good friends that aren't so concerned with perfect optimization, run raids with em, be social, don't just wait for the devs to buff your classes.

[Lorielle]

It sucks but i'd imagine its very hard to simply "do something" about it, you yourself didn't volunteer any ideas.

Give Samurai a damage boost across the board. 50-70 Potency. Done. There's my idea. If you want to make a job lack utility, they should be able to make up in damage. A faster kill looks better on a parse run for all these FFloggers.

Does this sound good to you? Or does this idea seem unthinkable cause it's unfair to other DPS jobs? Pardon if that sounds hostile, I don't mean to be. I'm just quite jaded.

And not all my friends are capable of being on the end game community. While the other problem is some of my other friends are also Samurai. And guess what's taboo? Stacking jobs. Who'd think of double stacking Samurais?

[XovanPrince]

No MMO should have a pure dps class. Period. Honestly no class should be pure anything. Those classes need utility, as of right now they are just generic dps.

[Joe777]

No MMO should have a pure dps class. Period. Honestly no class should be pure anything. Those classes need utility, as of right now they are just generic dps.

Actually I disagree with this. If you have too much utility it just makes people get choosy even more. A few utility jobs and then some raw dps for utility jobs to support is honestly fine. If people are preferring utility jobs over raw dps jobs then that means the raw dps jobs are not performing well enough for the meta to consider them viable. Of course, using only utility jobs for maintained buff upkeep is also the main culprit here as to why the meta is ignoring raw dps jobs. For the meta to truly consider raw dps jobs, that raw dps would have to match what the party's dps averages out at with less buff upkeep as opposed to having more upkeep.

In short, the DPS meta is a fusterclucking mess right now. I don't even think it'll ever get fixed either. While I would say since I don't follow the meta and play casually it isn't my problem, nor anyone else's like me, but that isn't true on account of the reason this thread was made.

[Kaonis]

It sucks but i'd imagine its very hard to simply "do something" about it, you yourself didn't volunteer any ideas.

I have said it before and I will say it till the end of time, we are not the devs. It is not our job to make the game.

[ErryK]

I think Yoshida said they were looking into giving utility to SAM after the whole happening with MNK in 4.2, but they weren't changing things for RDM.

[Frizze]

I'm tired of it. As much as I want to enjoy my Samurai class in parties, I find myself often being excluded, removed and more just because we do nothing for the party. SMN, MNK, and even BLM can match and even outparse Samurai on damage while bringing a form of utility.

Please do something Dev Team. Please and thank you.

Wait, they gave BLM some utility and they didnt tell us? Thats just about what i expect from those sneaky devs. Whats our new/expanded ability? I must inform the rest of the BLM community right away! /sarcasm_off And FYI, you do have a form of utility. SAM has an ability that reduces the targets slashing resistance, boosting both their own damage and that of several other classes. Is this a unique ability? No, but you do have it. This is where i would point out that i see BLM excluded a lot more then SAM, but honestly im not looking to see if SAM is included so its entirely possible that i wouldnt notice. In general, "selfish" DPS is poorly executed in this game - they dont do enough "extra" damage to warrant having nothing more to offer(and thats not even counting the times that they arent even the top damage falling behind a more synergistic job). Id be all for both of our jobs either getting a bit of a boost to be solidly above those that work together more nicely, or getting some utility abilities added so that we can be team players too.

[Coatl]

Yeah Samurai is in a really bad spot right now and the MNK buffs didn't help at all. You are pretty much just a melee Black mage at the moment..my condolences.

[ServerCollaps]

Yeah Samurai is in a really bad spot right now and the MNK buffs didn't help at all. You are pretty much just a melee Black mage at the moment..my condolences.

but blm have way higher dps and even more utility (mana shift, addle)