Growing tired of this Stigma

[Lorielle]

I'm tired of it. As much as I want to enjoy my Samurai class in parties, I find myself often being excluded, removed and more just because we do nothing for the party. SMN, MNK, and even BLM can match and even outparse Samurai on damage while bringing a form of utility.

Please do something Dev Team. Please and thank you.

[Kukajoo]

It sucks but i'd imagine its very hard to simply "do something" about it, you yourself didn't volunteer any ideas. At best we gotta hope the dev team is more conscious about handing out utility abilities to all classes that support the team, and hope for the best that next expac sam will get something to make it wanted in the meta.
In the meantime try looking for some good friends that aren't so concerned with perfect optimization, run raids with em, be social, don't just wait for the devs to buff your classes.

[Lorielle]

It sucks but i'd imagine its very hard to simply "do something" about it, you yourself didn't volunteer any ideas.

Give Samurai a damage boost across the board. 50-70 Potency. Done. There's my idea. If you want to make a job lack utility, they should be able to make up in damage. A faster kill looks better on a parse run for all these FFloggers.

Does this sound good to you? Or does this idea seem unthinkable cause it's unfair to other DPS jobs? Pardon if that sounds hostile, I don't mean to be. I'm just quite jaded.

And not all my friends are capable of being on the end game community. While the other problem is some of my other friends are also Samurai. And guess what's taboo? Stacking jobs. Who'd think of double stacking Samurais?

[ErryK]

I think Yoshida said they were looking into giving utility to SAM after the whole happening with MNK in 4.2, but they weren't changing things for RDM.

[Frizze]

I'm tired of it. As much as I want to enjoy my Samurai class in parties, I find myself often being excluded, removed and more just because we do nothing for the party. SMN, MNK, and even BLM can match and even outparse Samurai on damage while bringing a form of utility.

Please do something Dev Team. Please and thank you.

Wait, they gave BLM some utility and they didnt tell us? Thats just about what i expect from those sneaky devs. Whats our new/expanded ability? I must inform the rest of the BLM community right away! /sarcasm_off And FYI, you do have a form of utility. SAM has an ability that reduces the targets slashing resistance, boosting both their own damage and that of several other classes. Is this a unique ability? No, but you do have it. This is where i would point out that i see BLM excluded a lot more then SAM, but honestly im not looking to see if SAM is included so its entirely possible that i wouldnt notice. In general, "selfish" DPS is poorly executed in this game - they dont do enough "extra" damage to warrant having nothing more to offer(and thats not even counting the times that they arent even the top damage falling behind a more synergistic job). Id be all for both of our jobs either getting a bit of a boost to be solidly above those that work together more nicely, or getting some utility abilities added so that we can be team players too.

[Coatl]

Yeah Samurai is in a really bad spot right now and the MNK buffs didn't help at all. You are pretty much just a melee Black mage at the moment..my condolences.

[NephthysVasudan]

I'm tired of it. As much as I want to enjoy my Samurai class in parties, I find myself often being excluded, removed and more just because we do nothing for the party. SMN, MNK, and even BLM can match and even outparse Samurai on damage while bringing a form of utility.

Please do something Dev Team. Please and thank you.

Ironic....
Each class has its niche/role/pros/cons.
If you obsess over stats...you will condem yourself to the judgement of the "mob" - and a mob it is.
I couldn't careless what the mob says... I've seen many sam's and they are all very good at what they do in their own right. do they need a buff? perhaps.
But if someone starts broadcasting "no sam's allowed" - those people are idiots.

I'd tell I'm to take their parser and shove it where the sun don't shine.....and then report them for violation of ToS.

[itti18]

Samurai has usefull utility which is slashing debuff that benefits tanks excluding warrior , what form of utility does BLM have ?

[NephthysVasudan]

Samurai has usefull utility which is slashing debuff that benefits tanks excluding warrior , what form of utility does BLM have ?

Manashift....with a nearly endless mana supply - only problem is the cool down time. (Yes its a shared spell with casters..but still) - perhaps a buff to that would be useful?
Other than that...not a whole lot.

BLM's to me are glorified artillery cannons....and rather good at that job. They drop anchor...and nuke the target...so to speak. I'm reluctant to change that...as it makes them unique in that regard.

[Coatl]

Samurai has usefull utility which is slashing debuff that benefits tanks excluding warrior , what form of utility does BLM have ?

slash debuff is already a given with a ninja OR warrior in a party, and you'll be hard pressed to find a group running savage content without either of these.

OP you seem distressed. If you truly like Samurai my honest advice is for you to just take a small break from the game and come back in three to four months. More than likely Samurai will be adjusted by then.