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    Theplatter's Avatar
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    Mad Platter
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Couple things:

    1.) Might be handy to know the special moves by their name so you can see it in the battle log and know to prep accordingly:
    Mognesia - thief moogle's MP Drain
    Maxi Moogle - Bard song that blimps the moogles
    Moogle-go-round - marauder moogle's spinning aoe attack
    Whisker Bash - gladiator moogle's pacification attack
    Moogle Eye Shot - archer moogle's eagle eye shot attack

    2.) Reallllly surprised that you guys put Furryfoot so low on your priority list for kill order. As his cures generally give back 2k+ hp, we aim to kill him right after Pomburner because the longer the moogles are left alive, the more dangerous they are, and the more mp and arrows are used up.
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    Last edited by Theplatter; 01-22-2012 at 04:00 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    As much as it might hurt you, and as much as someone else brings the balance issues up, FFXI had the jobs right. And, you know, this is a FF, and I don't see you guys complaining about people asking for WoW things. So please.

    Also, it's not like this dev team is being true to the roots of the jobs anyway.
    This game is not WoW; if you want WoW, go play WoW. If you get butthurt when people mention Final Fantasy XI, then shut up about WoW.

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    Death Angelx
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by CK11 View Post
    I know im silly, but i am kinda looking forward to the moogle fist!!
    tbh I think moogle is muuuch esaier than ifrit is atm (ifrit was maybe easier before last update but they changed it in 1.20)

    Moogle: Even if you never did a fight, you just need to do your job correctly and watch around you
    Ifrit: .... you need runs and runs to learn... to deal with lag xD

    Quote Originally Posted by Theplatter View Post
    Couple things:2.) Reallllly surprised that you guys put Furryfoot so low on your priority list for kill order. As his cures generally give back 2k+ hp, we aim to kill him right after Pomburner because the longer the moogles are left alive, the more dangerous they are, and the more mp and arrows are used up.
    In my ls we are doing the same kill order since start (not necessairly this strat but this kill order) We found that whm doesnt cure so much and when we kill him too fast, the king comes a lot more in the middle of the room to heal others and sometimes pom-flare before he returns on tank. Plus, to save mps and dps, we found much better to kill thf in 2nd since he drains 700+ mp, stands almost always in the middle of the room (hard to avoid) and petrifies one of our DDs. The Brd is also a pain when he maxi-moogle ^^ and hits 1k hp.. dds can't always notice they have a big moogle before he hit them
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    as much as id hate to say it, erwald is exactly dead on with that strat. i hate ur ls erwald but i have to admit ur post is very accurate. good job!!
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    Rau Berlioz
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    Excalibur
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    Warrior Lv 90
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdMbBbsQw3k


    our strats are very similar.

    here's a video for anyone who needs a demonstration.
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    Deli's Avatar
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    Deli Denkryst
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    Goldsmith Lv 70
    tiny small error which is not that important
    Quote Originally Posted by Erwald View Post
    (memento) has a power equal to the number of moogles you killed during the phase 1
    not equal to the number of moogle you killed... it's reverse relationship like 1/(killed)

    but good guide I enjoyed it a lot
    +1

    /meh

    Quote Originally Posted by Dakin View Post
    Is this the Fisher-Price guide to moogle?
    I don't know what is this for. anyone?
    someone is posting some nice stuffs to the community that's very negative. put weird comment like that won't shows you are an elite players already know how to beat moogle easily. it just shows how _____ you are.
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    Last edited by Deli; 01-23-2012 at 04:51 AM.

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    Fated Erskine
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Your guide is well designed, but what does it bring to the table that hasn't already been discussed to death? There are already several guides floating around that cover this fight with the cookie cutter setup. Show me a video of you tackling it with a mix of different DDs and now you have my interest.

    This really is for everyone to be honest. I hear a lot of talk about "oh we did it two Marauders" or "we did it without Archers" but I have yet to see any videos. Show me your stuff folks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fated View Post
    Your guide is well designed, but what does it bring to the table that hasn't already been discussed to death? There are already several guides floating around that cover this fight with the cookie cutter setup. Show me a video of you tackling it with a mix of different DDs and now you have my interest.

    This really is for everyone to be honest. I hear a lot of talk about "oh we did it two Marauders" or "we did it without Archers" but I have yet to see any videos. Show me your stuff folks!
    This exactly 200% ^
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    Baxta Chumblewit
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Fated View Post
    Your guide is well designed, but what does it bring to the table that hasn't already been discussed to death? There are already several guides floating around that cover this fight with the cookie cutter setup. Show me a video of you tackling it with a mix of different DDs and now you have my interest.

    This really is for everyone to be honest. I hear a lot of talk about "oh we did it two Marauders" or "we did it without Archers" but I have yet to see any videos. Show me your stuff folks!
    video

    This is a video of ours, though this particular run has only 2 LNC I think? We generally take 1 GLA, 2 CNJ and 2 ARCs minimum, but any other spots are fair game for any classes. I recall a run tonight for example with 2 ARC, 2 MRD and 1 LNC. The only benefit for ARC in this fight is shadowbind, if your DPS are any good they can parse as high if not higher than ARCs with little problem. Class stacking 5 ARCs really doesn't have huge benefits at all.

    We tried it with one ARC, but we didn't change our kill order, so it wasn't that great. With only 1 ARC you have to keen flurry shadowbind which hurts your DPS, since you should be using it on quick knock. Then resists are a different matter on top of that. It was a bit sloppy all told. We have enough people that enjoy ARC that running with 2 is easy, so rather than adjust our kill order we just do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxta View Post
    video

    This is a video of ours, though this particular run has only 2 LNC I think? We generally take 1 GLA, 2 CNJ and 2 ARCs minimum, but any other spots are fair game for any classes. I recall a run tonight for example with 2 ARC, 2 MRD and 1 LNC. The only benefit for ARC in this fight is shadowbind, if your DPS are any good they can parse as high if not higher than ARCs with little problem. Class stacking 5 ARCs really doesn't have huge benefits at all.

    We tried it with one ARC, but we didn't change our kill order, so it wasn't that great. With only 1 ARC you have to keen flurry shadowbind which hurts your DPS, since you should be using it on quick knock. Then resists are a different matter on top of that. It was a bit sloppy all told. We have enough people that enjoy ARC that running with 2 is easy, so rather than adjust our kill order we just do that.
    3 ARC is not really worth showing IMO, done easily even with a half pickup party.

    2 ARCs, or just any setup that doesn't contain the same jobs more than 2 times would be interesting, especially if honest success rate is provided.
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