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    OmegaSinX's Avatar
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    King Drako
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    WAR's: Want SE to bring back Foresight, Fracture, Bloodbath, and Mercy Stroke ?

    Warriors,

    How would you feel if SE brought back these skills in the future (maybe next expansion) but tweaked them to be new and improved versions of the old versions? Some of you may not even know what these are or what they did. These skills reminds me of the time before 2.0 where WAR was the lol tank. While they were not the best skills, when they took them away it felt like a kick in the gut. I truly miss them.

    And OH I almost forgot, brutal swing! Why did they take this out again ?....
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    Tanks be Like....


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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Foresight: Why? Rampart is better
    Fracture: This even existed?
    Mercy Stroke: Not a big loss
    Bloodbath:
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Bloodbath would make WAR's high self healing even higher yeah. Or allow WAR's to just go Deliverance Cleave/Decimate ham. >_>
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmegaSinX View Post
    WAR's: Want SE to bring back Foresight, Fracture, Bloodbath, and Mercy Stroke ?
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    Blake Farrence
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    I'm a Dark Knight (and Warrior) and I want Foresight, does that count?

    It would help DRK's kit so much.
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    Mute Shellback
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    *looks around*

    ...where's the line in the sand?
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    They gave us such powerful healing on steel cyclone due to bloodbath being taken out. We got a good deal overall. And the reduced number of buttons made way for IR, Onslaught, Upheaval, SiO. I think if we got anything back, they'd be taking something away to balance it, so I'd rather stick with where we are now. Brutal swing was taken out because we got low blow as a role action. They removed most of the damage-dealing stun attacks from all jobs so we're no longer incidentally stunning things as part of a dps rotation; now only using CC when it's part of a deliberate strategy.
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    Sor-aki Muppe
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    No. Most of these was not a big loss so meh.
    Bloodbath, while a loss for sure, was removed for a very good reason and for SE to give it back at this point would be a really bad idea balance wise.
    Na, WAR got the rework and is now in a great spot. What SE have to focus on now is 1: figuring out what they really want DRK to be and 2: make it into that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Foresight: Why? Rampart is better
    Fracture: This even existed?
    Mercy Stroke: Not a big loss
    Bloodbath:
    Quote Originally Posted by Soraki-Muppe View Post
    No. Most of these was not a big loss so meh.
    Bloodbath, while a loss for sure, was removed for a very good reason and for SE to give it back at this point would be a really bad idea balance wise.
    Na, WAR got the rework and is now in a great spot. What SE have to focus on now is 1: figuring out what they really want DRK to be and 2: make it into that.
    Quote Originally Posted by OmegaSinX View Post
    Warriors,

    ...... in the future (maybe next expansion) but tweaked them to be new and improved versions of the old versions?
    Do people read? I'm suggesting they bring it in the future with new and improved versions of themselves, hopefully in the next big expansion in which PLD/DRK would get new skills as well. I'm not asking them to come back now, as they were. It would be Nostalgic. How can we predict it will be unbalanced without knowing what PLD/DRK would get and how SE will balance the classes even futher before the next expansion?
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    Last edited by OmegaSinX; 02-16-2018 at 08:55 PM.
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    Aana Azel
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    Exodus
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    Lancer Lv 50
    No, no, and no.

    Foresight was always trash. Even if they brought it back in a similar form, its just a boring "push button, take less damage" just like most CDs in the game. Whooptie do. Theres no fun there.

    Fracture: I don't get peoples obsession with dots. Bring back scourge! Bring back fracture! They are relics. 1 button, non-combo, no interaction dots. I really don't get the obsession with these things. The most interesting thing you could do with fracture was play it on Mnk as a gap filler to shift your rotation to get better use out of your buffs/dot tics.

    Bloodbath: Similar. War has epic levels of self healing. You want bloodbath? Have you tried 8x steel cyclone? 8x BB? Equalibrium? All things that didn't exist in 2.0 when bloodbath was the primary healing source. It has already been given back to us. It was only epic for dungeon trash pulls which we can now decimate (hehehe). Single target it was OK, but not ground breaking.

    These skills were bad, boring, outdated or all 3. Let the dead rest.

    If you bring them back 'in a different form' then you aren't bringing them back. You are just making a new skill and giving it an old name. A new super awesome, fun, interesting skill? Of course I'd take whatever that would be. What kinda question is that?

    "Would you like an imaginary, cool new skill"
    "Why yes OP I would like a new fun thing for my job"

    Would I want it more because you decide call it fracture? Heck no.
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    Last edited by Aana; 02-17-2018 at 12:25 AM.

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