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  1. #11
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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
    World
    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    > Has 1 "normal" attack for job quests and open world. The job is meant to shine in light or full party content.
    > Healing spells have combos.
    > Uses TP for extra effects on healing combos (think of this as similar to MP and Dark Arts on Dark Knight).
    > TP enhanced healing combos leave a residual "holy reflect" on a healed target.
    > Holy reflect may deal damage or debuff when struck by an enemy (magic damage may also be reflected - raidwide might not be, or the potency would be lower).
    > Healing combos enhanced by TP change the potency of these damage or debuffs left by holy reflect.
    > Holy reflect shows up as a stack that powers up as a healing combo is followed.
    > Stack lasts for a set amount of time.
    > Holy reflect may become AoE in a very small radius (5y) with healed target in the center.
    > Healing combos minimally effect healing potency or none at all.
    > Holy reflect does not proc with overhealing or regens.
    > Holy reflect damage counts as healer DPS (don't need people trying to face tank for extra damage from the reflect).
    > May provide a very minimal regen effect as a trait based on the area around the healer (thinking 50 potency with a 10y or 15y range).
    > Shielding causes the reflect damage to be lower (don't think I really needed this to be said, but it's there).
    > Is neither shielding nor regen.
    > May have 1 mitigation tool for raidwide damage (in the case of this healer and a white mage composition, there is a tool available).

    Basically, healer designed to actively heal while still providing decent, consistent DPS when comboing heals. Since the combos don't really effect healing potency, healers have no fear for compensating for human error and suffering a loss of healing that could be readily felt.
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    Last edited by JunseiKei; 02-17-2018 at 12:18 AM. Reason: Corrected an incorrect word.
    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
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    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

  2. #12
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    Fhaerron's Avatar
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    Fhaerron Kobayashi
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
    I think a Healer focused on debuffing would be a nice addition. However, it might upset the balance of Healers. Of course, that also assumes there is a debuff said Healer would get that is unique to it.
    But people would QQ.

    There's already QQ in sigmascape because 'pure healers' are required to DPS.

    I'm pretty sure SE will never make a heal job that requires to 'DPS' or debuff enemies in order to heal the group. Healers beeing able to DPS will always be optional because you know the 'casuals' don't know how to press an extra DPS button while they are not healing and they wouldn't want to loose those players.
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  3. #13
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    Joe Ultima
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    Coeurl
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    Rogue Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Fhaerron View Post
    But people would QQ.

    There's already QQ in sigmascape because 'pure healers' are required to DPS.

    I'm pretty sure SE will never make a heal job that requires to 'DPS' or debuff enemies in order to heal the group. Healers beeing able to DPS will always be optional because you know the 'casuals' don't know how to press an extra DPS button while they are not healing and they wouldn't want to loose those players.
    While your usage of casuals implied you weren't outright saying all casual players but those who just plain don't fully apply themselves even in easy content, I should mention that I am a casual gamer and when I heal I also DPS when able.

    As for a debuff Healer, it'd be another form of support. Depending on the debuffs though said job would become a static staple, and we really need less of those.
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    Guildmaster of Power With Numbers (PWN) on Coeurl in Aether.

  4. #14
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    Pomelo's Avatar
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    Pomelo Elmbrook
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    I chose, focuses on buffing, channeled heals that add positive effects at the end of a full channel, which then combos into other (instant maybe) heals.
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  5. #15
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    miraidensetsu's Avatar
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    Luno Belfi
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Fhaerron View Post
    There's already QQ in sigmascape because 'pure healers' are required to DPS.

    I'm pretty sure SE will never make a heal job that requires to 'DPS' or debuff enemies in order to heal the group. Healers beeing able to DPS will always be optional because you know the 'casuals' don't know how to press an extra DPS button while they are not healing and they wouldn't want to loose those players.
    Not again...
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  6. #16
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    Niraye Shiron
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    Jenova
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    Miner Lv 80
    can we have a healer with a giant hammer that gives defense buffs and offence buffs while being able to heal? (only defense or offence buffs) i know this is an old gimmick... but i love healers with giant hammers...
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  7. #17
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    Joe Ultima
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    Coeurl
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    Rogue Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Niraye View Post
    can we have a healer with a giant hammer that gives defense buffs and offence buffs while being able to heal? (only defense or offence buffs) i know this is an old gimmick... but i love healers with giant hammers...
    I don't think Black Mage approves though. It gets in the way of his unwanted pick-up lines.
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    Guildmaster of Power With Numbers (PWN) on Coeurl in Aether.

  8. #18
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    Azealia Banks
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    Gilgamesh
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    Astrologian Lv 76
    I think they could implement dancer as sort of an AOE healer focusing on buffs, debuffs, and hots. Similar to Lucio's speed/heal aura in overwatch, but with dances and performances.
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  9. #19
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    Aryn Tatsuuchi
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    ...
    15th. Has a Mechanic that mixes other skills for varied effects: 35 votes
    ...
    24th. Has a Mechanic that mixes other skills for varied effects: 18 votes

    ...
    You have this one twice in the poll.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
    While your usage of casuals implied you weren't outright saying all casual players but those who just plain don't fully apply themselves even in easy content, I should mention that I am a casual gamer and when I heal I also DPS when able.

    As for a debuff Healer, it'd be another form of support. Depending on the debuffs though said job would become a static staple, and we really need less of those.
    The main reason I dont heal any current expansion content, too many people whining that Im not dedicating the majority if my time pew pewing. Then turn around and complain because I dont have enough MP to heal their stupidity when they stand in bad so they end up dying. Healing is FFXIV is damned if you do, damned if you dont. So I just dont, and play summoner.
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