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    Should I use the glamour dresser?

    I've been avoiding the glamour dresser. Common issues I found with were the 200 item limit, the fact I can only make them in the inn, and I can't remove items from it, after I put them in. That last detail made me cautious about putting mogstation items inside. But recently, I found myself burning through a lot of glamour prisms. I switched to a newly made glamor set, but didn't like how it looked as I played my job. Changing it back, I lost quite a few prisms than I realized. Also, as I got more gear from raiding, I think the glamour plates might be a better option. I wouldn't have to manually glam each piece I get.

    Not setting glam to each job is disappointing, but I won't lose sleep if it's still assigned by gearset. Is there anything I should know about this new system before I decide to use it?
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    Aylis Tessier
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    I've been...okay with it and have no real complaints with it. Then again I only really play just one class and use it for the couple sets I do like. Though as I understand it, the dresser system doesn't work mixed with the old system, so its plate or bust. I don't have an issue with it. However I can understand why that would be a problem for some as well as those who play multiple roles due to the low plate number.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    It's totally compatible with the current system, it's just a different way of applying it. You can make a partial plate with holes and then manually glamour the parts you left blank in the plate.
    I take back what I said in my post. I was under the impression from previous dresser threads that it was one way or the other.
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    Last edited by Aylis; 02-15-2018 at 12:01 PM.

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    I made a glamour plate with nothing but emperor's new accessories in it, and another plate with my default paladin glamour gear which is mostly pretty cheap Wootz Armor and that's pretty much it. If you have some relatively cheap pieces you use frequently I'd say go for it for just a few things. Any slot on a plate that has nothing in it won't do anything to the current glamours you have so you can continue to use normal glamour prisms in conjunction with plates. You can also freely edit the plates so if you have something in your glamour dresser that you want to use individually you can still do that.

    IF you have a glamour item that you use with a non-tradeable or really expensive dye, though, DON'T put it in the the dresser, the dye will get stripped and you will have to re-dye it every time you glamour it over something.
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    Things to remember:
    Once you convert something to a glamour dresser entry it can never be used as equipment again and cannot be retrieved.
    Converting something into a dresser entry uses a prism.
    If you hit the 200 limit, you will have to delete an entry to add new items
    You cannot currently use dresser items on squadron members
    Using a plate is like glamouring everything at once, it overwrites permanently anything you currently have on your gear unless you leave a blank space in that slot.
    if you dye something before you put it in the dresser , it will retain that dye for all future implementations. So if you want to have something use an expensive dye, either dye it then put it in, or dye the actual entry in the log and not on the plate.
    Plates CAN retain individual dye information though, but this is lost if the slot is changed.





    The main thing it's useful for right now is if you have a look you like but are leveling and changing gear often. Once you make a plate you can just re-apply it every time you upgrade a piece of gear.

    It's totally compatible with the current system, it's just a different way of applying it. You can make a partial plate with holes and then manually glamour the parts you left blank in the plate.


    If you're tentative about your mogstation items, leave them out for now, but anything you KNOW you're only going to use for a glamour on your player character and nothing else, might as well go in the dresser.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ferth View Post
    IF you have a glamour item that you use with a non-tradeable or really expensive dye, though, DON'T put it in the the dresser, the dye will get stripped and you will have to re-dye it every time you glamour it over something.
    This is incorrect. Dye information on a dresser entry IS retained. If you put it in the Armoire though it will be stripped.

    Oh, good point I took for granted though, Anything you put in the armoire is accessible through the dresser plate creation.

    Argh, last edit: Plates can ONLY be applied in cities and non-combatant areas like main cities. You can make a macro to swap plates when you swap gearsets but this will only work in cities, if you change gear in the field it cannot apply the glamour.
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    Last edited by Krotoan; 02-15-2018 at 12:18 PM.

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    It's very helpful if you like the look of, say, crafted items, reclaimable gear, anything you could get again without too much effort if you needed the item.
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    I haven't messed around with the dresser yet but could someone answer me a question please? At present I have the same glamour on 3 different jobs. On one job its dyed white, one blue and one red. Could I still do this if I put the gear in the dresser?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeaneR View Post
    I haven't messed around with the dresser yet but could someone answer me a question please? At present I have the same glamour on 3 different jobs. On one job its dyed white, one blue and one red. Could I still do this if I put the gear in the dresser?
    If you wanted to use 3 different plates, yes. You can do it one of 2 ways:

    1.Put the set into the dresser and dye the plates different colors.

    2. Put a copy of each piece, dyed before conversion, for each color into the dresser (you can put the same item into the dresser multiple times, I'm not sure if this works for "unique" items).
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    I experimented with it, using some common leather glam. From my experience, it doesn't seem as awful as most people have been saying. But it's definitely flawed. We need more than 10 plates to use and more than 200 items to put in the dresser. I find the inability to switch plates outside a citystate nonsensical. Why can't I suddenly use them after stepping 5 feet outside Ishgard? I might've forgiven this if you could still switch them in a sanctuary area, like Camp Dragonhead, but you can't even do that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Using a plate is like glamouring everything at once, it overwrites permanently anything you currently have on your gear unless you leave a blank space in that slot.
    I like that plates can glams everything at once, according to what's on it. I didn't see it permanently override anything, however. Once I used a plate, I was still able to glam pieces individually. I haven't tried it with dyes, though. It would have been nice to make each job set look unique, but I was already used to it looking different by gearset
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    At its current state, the only thing I see a use for it is storage space for crap the fashion report asks for if you don't see yourself using the gear as glamour for anything else. No item space on retainer or inventory lost to something you find ugly. The other use is crafters and gatherers having different looks since that's easy to do with the 10 plate limit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REPROBEAN_CHILD View Post
    I experimented with it, using some common leather glam. From my experience, it doesn't seem as awful as most people have been saying. But it's definitely flawed. We need more than 10 plates to use and more than 200 items to put in the dresser. I find the inability to switch plates outside a citystate nonsensical. Why can't I suddenly use them after stepping 5 feet outside Ishgard? I might've forgiven this if you could still switch them in a sanctuary area, like Camp Dragonhead, but you can't even do that.
    I like that plates can glams everything at once, according to what's on it. I didn't see it permanently override anything, however. Once I used a plate, I was still able to glam pieces individually. I haven't tried it with dyes, though. It would have been nice to make each job set look unique, but I was already used to it looking different by gearset
    We definitely need more plates and space, I'm hoping this is an initial foray into a more robust system. I'm relatively confident they're testing numbers to see how much they can expand the system.. We'll see though. The restriction makes no canon sense but from a technical standpoint it's probably less stress since city instances likely don't have the same back and forth with combat happening to compete with the inventory changes. It's not the horrible oppressive system people are claiming it to be yeah, but it's not perfect by a longshot. Here's to hoping they make it better.

    Oh , not permanently as in unchangeable. Just treat it as if you've glamoured those items the regular way. Some people thought it was a temporary layer that could just be removed and were shocked when it ended up being just like a regular glamour.
    Dyeing is pretty simple. You can apply them straight to the plate, or to the item after applying the plate, either way works fine but applying it to the plate will save you future dye costs as long as you want to keep it that color.
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