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  1. #321
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    dejiko_san's Avatar
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    Princess Mae'a
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    Mateus
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Since they stole my THF out of existence, DNC!
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  2. #322
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    Ayer2015's Avatar
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    Ayer Austen
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Really hoping for a new healer and tank jobs. Specifically Dancer. But I wouldnt be surprised if it was 2 new dps jobs. But if they do add 2 new dps jobs then they will need another incentive for people who play tank and healer jobs.
    If they don't add a healer I will be unsubbed until they do add one :@
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  3. #323
    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    At this point as a WHM main I'm really torn about how I feel when it comes to a new healer because as much as I want the variety and DNC specifically watching them fail healer balance so hard makes me apprehensive.
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  4. #324
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    Alrin's Avatar
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    Alrin Kireen
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    Phantom
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    Sage Lv 100
    *Stand in the huge line with others saying dancer healer*

    I may have to big imagination but it could look good
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    In darkness, in cold, in the midst of winter where nothing walks the world but death and fear let the brave rejoice: I call the light.
    Out of darkness, light. Ouf of silence, song. Ouf of the sun´s death, the birth of each year. Out of cold, fire. Out of death, life. Out of fear, courage to see the day. (Elizabeth Moon - The Deed of Paksenarrion)

  5. #325
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    Ayer Austen
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    At this point as a WHM main I'm really torn about how I feel when it comes to a new healer because as much as I want the variety and DNC specifically watching them fail healer balance so hard makes me apprehensive.
    MMOs are never fully balanced. Waiting until the current jobs are would mean we would never get new jobs.
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  6. #326
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    Zsolen's Avatar
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    Zanelle Solainteau
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    Coeurl
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    Machinist Lv 100
    I'll echo the calls for chemist stated in several posts. Specifically, I am looking for a physical ranged healer with the tech mindset of a machinist. They need skill speed, but not spell speed; dexterity, but not mind. Mix should definitely be in the mix. I don't think actual items in inventory should be required. SCH did not have to carry leeches, when that was a thing. Speaking of leeches, they may need to make a come back. If chemist uses the range role actions, they need a replacement for esuna.
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  7. #327
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    JamiaHaab's Avatar
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    Jami'a Jaab
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    Mateus
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    Botanist Lv 70
    I think everyone needs to realize that this game is polished but not at all innovative. Heavy armor tanks and mage healers are all you're ever going to get. As for my opinion on healer dancer, the idea of running to your target to heal them is terrible, and if the dancer heals with a ranged ability it's just a mage with a wasted melee aesthetic. And for the dancer aesthetic that everyone likes, you want it dancing in those giant wedding gowns that healers will always get? Ew. It should be a DPS and share gear with BRD while MCH and NIN can share so MCH can look more like a sniper.
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    Last edited by JamiaHaab; 07-14-2018 at 09:47 PM.

  8. #328
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Brightshadow View Post
    So you think because Dancer might not be a DPS it won't be a real Dancer? There is only one prerequisite for a Dancer and that is that they must be dancing as much as possible and just because it might become a healer doesn't mean they won't be doing their specialty. Honestly I feel DPS players need to get out of their bubble and be enticed to try the healer and tanking roles. And by adding popular jobs to these roles it helps. Now, about Square Enix being afraid to do anything unique with their healers or tank perhaps that's true, but eventually they will have to try something new since they cannot continue to copy and paste healer or tank jobs or they will just end up alienating their tank and healer players causing even a bigger problem.
    Not remotely.

    I said, in no vague terms, that I don't think it belongs, ideally, as just another DPS; but, given the present climate of XIV class design, I do believe that for now the supportive DPS template offers slightly more freedom in design and better affinity for the different aspects of the gameplay available a Dancer. I want to see that climate change so it doesn't have to be, but I'd much sooner "deal with" an adapted DPS Dancer than an adapted Healer Dancer as things are currently -- e.g. in the "change (is necessary, but) will never happen anyways" community view.

    If I may pose a similar question -- but without purposely misconstruing your post -- what exactly is "dancing?" "Dancing as much as possible" could be covered in as little as a differed idle animation whilst casting <ST Heal Mostly Unused>, <ST Heal Expensive>, <AoE Heal>, <Ability ST Heal>, <Ability AoE Heal> in the same way the other three do. To you, what makes dancing, "dancing"? I feel like we probably have very different minimum benchmarks.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 07-11-2018 at 06:53 AM.

  9. #329
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    Kesey Stryker
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    Zalera
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaiinahat View Post
    I would like to see dancer as a tank. Sort of a Wushu monk type that builds enmity by deflecting blows. For some reason, I just can't picture a kata wielding character class being a healer.

    Some other kind of healer, perhaps a shaman type that uses magic to absorb damage (like the EQ2 shaman) or a HoT type healer (EQ2 druid).

    I don't really think we need another DPS, but a beast master type would compliment the current lineup, one that uses natural abilities, not like SMN that uses magic.
    I see dancer as a dodge tank too. Dancers in essence are distractions; so they get their enemies attention and then dance around them trying not to get hit.

    Hate for dodge tank incoming...
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  10. #330
    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    MMOs are never fully balanced. Waiting until the current jobs are would mean we would never get new jobs.
    Not holding out for full balance by any means, just perhaps a time where the devs are smart enough to not leave the only healer with no rDPS contribution as also the lowest pDPS contributor.
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