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    Player Linx0r's Avatar
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    Machinist class

    Why didn’t they make MCH like Edgar from ff6 who can use chainsaws, drills, flashs, poison dispenser, debillitator etc. ? He was the original MCH. Why is the class a glorified cowboy? They could have made this class sooooooooo much better. Use a gunblade as main weapon with other tools I listed above as skills. Just asking what people’s thoughts are as I personally think this class should be a Gunner since that’s all they use
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    Why didn't they make the Samurai a heavy armored counter-attack tank?
    Why did they give the Scholar a pet?
    Why is the Dark knight not using his health to deal damage?

    Because every FF universe is different and there are restriction lorewise and gameplay wise.
    For instance, the job was created in Ishgard in FF14. They do not use Chainsaw and Drills. They're fighting dragons. When it comes to taking down a flying lizard, a gun is more suited than a chainsaw.
    We don't acquire the job in Garlemald (or from someone working formerly working for them), we acquire it in a land where the only useful technology is a technology that kills dragon effectively.

    My only disapointement with MCH is the lack of goodies. I was expecting a bit more interaction on the turret departments because the turret was highly advertised.

    Perhaps in 6.0 they'll add your gunblade job with all your techno stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvain View Post
    For instance, the job was created in Ishgard in FF14. They do not use Chainsaw and Drills. They're fighting dragons. When it comes to taking down a flying lizard, a gun is more suited than a chainsaw.
    And a rifle more than a pistol. I'm not sure there's a single use for the aetherpack in dragon-hunting, and yet the much more applicable large-bore rifle was sacrificed to leave the other hand free...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    And a rifle more than a pistol. I'm not sure there's a single use for the aetherpack in dragon-hunting, and yet the much more applicable large-bore rifle was sacrificed to leave the other hand free...
    I assumed it's where energy for the various gadgets came from, back when Grenade shot was a thing.

    I imagine it powers the Flamethrower, Ricochet Shot, all the Heated shot variants, holds the pitch from Wildfire, etc.

    I do hope more gadgets come as new abilities. Edgar was a mainstay in my FF6 team. He just made such a strong impression. "Who needs all magic when you got AUTO CROSSBOW!"

    "Oh, you want to fight us? NOISE BLASTER"
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    They're actually kinda close to the Tactics incarnation. Or at least were before the Stormblood skill pruning. They could shoot specific body parts to cause certain disabilities. Like head shot (/graze) to silence, leg shot to immobilize etc.
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    We unfortunately interact with our turrets LESS in Stormblood.

    It IS a pet, but it's not a pet. I wouldn't mind if there were a turret hotbar per se, but that would change the dynamic of the job a lot, and for something already drastically changed from what it started as, a third change probably wouldn't be well accepted, especially for a job that's struggled in popularity since inception.

    As a different idea, I wouldn't be against more gadgetry (not chainsaws and drills and such, more techy than that), even if only in attack animations. Kinda like the current Heated Clean Shot.
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    Unfortunately for me, MCH is kind of stuck in its current niche of being ultra-focused on its burst window. Personally, it's my least favorite job in the entire game because of how utterly rigid its gameplay is, but it can't really be changed to alleviate that because it's not really fair to the people who LIKE that about it. Oh well, if we get a gunblade tank or something then I'll be one happy camper, but it's a shame that I like guns so much and they're tied to something I can't really enjoy in the slightest.
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    An Edgar based class would be quite awesome. That chainsaw was amazing, especially with Sigmascape, would bring back so many memories. While I agree the FF universes are all different. FFXIV pulls A TON from FFVI. Monk should also have their LB 3 be Phantom Rush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    An Edgar based class would be quite awesome. That chainsaw was amazing, especially with Sigmascape, would bring back so many memories. While I agree the FF universes are all different. FFXIV pulls A TON from FFVI. Monk should also have their LB 3 be Phantom Rush.
    I completely agree i do respect that all FF worlds are different, however it would have been nice to see at least a couple items taken away from Edgar's toolkit and put into MCH. I love how much of 6 is in FF14, and since that game holds a very special place in my heart, i want to see even more of it.

    PS. before Phantom Rush, it was called Bum Rush xD and it would be wild amazing crazy cool to see that incorporated into MNK
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linx0r View Post
    Bum Rush
    I know Phantom Rush didn't sound right but my brain was failing me. Thanks for bringing that back.
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