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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Bevelle, Besaid Island
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    Now in the case of smn the better stat i guess is crit over DH because dots are involved but jobs like Red Mage DH is better
    its not just the dots what makes crit interesting/needful for smns the most important reason is ruin iv since we need those procs more than ever since ruin iii and ww got nerfed imo : o
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    Karshan's Avatar
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    Lina Kirell
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    Moogle
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    its not just the dots what makes crit interesting/needful for smns the most important reason is ruin iv since we need those procs more than ever since ruin iii and ww got nerfed imo : o
    Except crit has nothing to do with ruin IV procs, it's not like the SS buff from back then.

    The trait reads : "Grants a 15% chance that a pet action will trigger Further Ruin, upgrading Ruin II to Ruin IV." Nothing in here involves crit, it's just 15% each time an action is used by you pet.

    No the reason Crit is better is because it suits best the spiky damage profile jobs, which summoner is, (especially when the crits hit the spikes), as opposed to more linear damage profile like DRK, NIN or RDM, who benefit more from DH. Well at least when we were under 1500, now with the new caps, and with next cap in 6 months able to reach 2000 up to 2500-2800 k easily, I think crit will return as the sovereign secondary stat for most jobs.
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    Kitfox's Avatar
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    Lynn Nuvestrahl
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    its not just the dots what makes crit interesting/needful for smns the most important reason is ruin iv since we need those procs more than ever since ruin iii and ww got nerfed imo : o
    Ruin 4 is triggered by pet actions, it has nothing to do with Crit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karshan View Post
    No, the reason Crit is better is because it suits best the spiky damage profile jobs, which summoner is
    That's also not the reason. Crit is preferred by a lot of classes because of its quadratic growth and its availability on gear, party compositions involving DRG/SCH/BRD/AST are also a factor in favor because of raid buffs that boost crit rate. Damage is compared using rotational simulators and the damage formula to find the best performing gear set. Crit scaling being quadratic in nature means that if enough of it is available on gear, it gets more powerful than the other stats with linear gains after a point. The point at which that happens depends entirely on the stat spread on the gear. If crit is paired with detrimental stats, like sks is in some cases, or if there's simply not enough crit on the gear, the gear set might not end up focusing on crit. The only jobs that have inherently crit skewed focus are the ones with class mechanics centered around crit, such as BRD or MNK.
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    Last edited by Kitfox; 02-18-2018 at 09:53 PM.