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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by aozoranoyume View Post
    I'm not arguing that pDPS can't equate to the overall contribution that rDPS can; it can and does, but you're speaking as if FFLogs and ACT don't exist. My point, exaggerated or not, was that even low-tier players who can barely perform a rotation of any coherence are locking out SAM & BLM from PF due to the meta mindset.

    The vast majority of players are convinced they need a NIN & DRG to clear content efficiently. Most people know any job is capable contributing to overall DPS (even if it comes through pDPS), but they want to see their own numbers go up. If TA & BL are what helps them achieve orange on FFLogs so they can feel better about themselves and have an easier time applying to statics, then of course they're going to want only that in their parties.
    The only point you can fix that you're balancing not around actual raid damage and viability therefor, but the ability to pad (ironically enough) personal DPS. That is not something XIV's developers should be required to do. The party's clear speed should be enough; personal DPS percentiles should be irrelevant. If the community remains that backwards at that point that they would, given the chance, sacrifice raid DPS for their own personal logs, so be it, the idea of class choice is essentially irredeemable, because by being dependent on other's bonuses you reduce what's actually expected of you personally and therefore the fflogs cap likely for your class. Can't take the 7k dps Monk because too many people are used to being padded to 5.5k, despite a 1k net loss. Whoopdeedo?

    The funny thing is that the solution to that issue is the same thing that would make indirect damage look all the more attractive in itself -- allocating all bonus damage caused to the person who applied the (de)buff, not the persons embonused. It also makes actual contribution all the more obvious, and therefore actual balance all the more obvious... Likewise an official parser would at least heavily discourage those who haven't the skill to even interact with or really understand the benefits of a given meta from taking second-hand statements as common sense without having any of the sense of it themselves and push them towards a position where they better could understand the reality of it. But alas, DPS-mania and rigid guidelines are applied even by those who can't decently dps because parsers aren't DADT, despite FFlogs being a world of the best padded... Contradictions are always fun.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 02-21-2018 at 06:55 PM.