Normal mode raids: please don’t settle on this loot system...

[Selova]

Another prime example of how spoiled this community is sometimes. Consider yourselves lucky they don't do it like blizzard does loot lockouts where it locks you out of looting the boss more than once, even if you don't receive any gear for the entire week until reset. The loot system is fine as is.

[BluexBird]

Honestly I just don't even bother anymore. After doing Sigmascape 2.0 seven times without getting a pedal, I just gave up. It's like... what's the point? I might as well just wait until I get it through Savage or with Creation tokens eventually.

[Darrcyphfeid]

Yeah man! It's not like I got a static or anything while being broke af and no crafters so I can't make/commission the pieces I need!

If you're "broke af" and you ain't got no crafters, this would seem to imply that you don't use food or stat pots either? You'd think a static would support its members though. /shrug

Also nobody looking for a carry in NA? Please...

If you think every PF without a stupidly misguided ilvl requirement is looking for a carry, I dunno what to tell you. I personally find the opposite to be true though.



Regardless, if you or your static feel that burning time in OxN is beneficial, more power to ya. However the fact that you feel that way, and that you don't have a good opinion of the raiding community with regard to ilvl restrictions, doesn't mean the loot system couldn't do with some more improving.

[ErryK]

If gearing up quickly is that important to you, OP, just get crafted stuff.

[Saint_Angeles]

Just craft\buy an i350 set in a day and clear O8N once a week for the tomestone item if you want. /thread

[Nihility]

i'd say the main problem is the shaft and springs.
needing 4 of each while also having the cranks be from those floors really mucks up the ability to get them reliably at all

floor 1 and 2 can be like "i can roll on these two things" but then 3 and especially 4 is like everyone in the party is after only one item that may only drop one copy. It can get really tedious. Only really doing it for alt gear since it's basically the worst option for 350 statistically

[Vidu]

Another prime example of how spoiled this community is sometimes. Consider yourselves lucky they don't do it like blizzard does loot lockouts where it locks you out of looting the boss more than once, even if you don't receive any gear for the entire week until reset. The loot system is fine as is.

We used to have a system like that for Coil! Two pieces of loot dropping after defeating the boss, everyone in the party now being locked out of entering the content again for a week. The pieces were random and you could be stuck with useless bard-stuff for the third week in a row.
Complains were made, both about the loot-system aswell as there being no casual-version of the raid - and we got Alexander/Omega with their respective loot-systems... and now its to much hassle to do the content more than once a week... *shakes head*

Yeah man! It's not like I got a static or anything while being broke af and no crafters so I can't make/commission the pieces I need!

...you'd think a static could organise to run this stuff together each week, so every member can get the pieces from NM they need/want...
You'd also a think that a serious static would rather see crafted&melded gear - unless some Sigma-pieces have godly substats for some classes. Making friends with a crafter or becoming one yourself can really go a long way! And if Sigma is so tedious and horrible to you... why not invest the same time in leveling up a crafter?

[RiyahArp]

Making friends with a crafter or becoming one yourself can really go a long way! And if Sigma is so tedious and horrible to you... why not invest the same time in leveling up a crafter?

It's too hard to do this to make 4 star gear for yourself. The caps are so high that only a full set of HQ white gear overmelded moderately (but with t6 crafting materia in the main slots) will give you the stats to HQ it. You're looking at 20+million as a one time investment to be able to get that; even augmented scrip gear won't work. And even then unless you can make all parts and gather them you are saving maybe 50% or less on the cost of the finished item if you buy HQ mats.

edit: Oh, and I also just do the last tier, unless my friend wants to do it for the week. It's always been stupid, SE has had three years of seeing people do this and they never think that maybe a system that needs 4 pieces which drop once a week from two instances and are bid on by 8 people is stupid. T

[Vidu]

It's too hard to do this to make 4 star gear for yourself. The caps are so high that only a full set of HQ white gear overmelded moderately (but with t6 crafting materia in the main slots) will give you the stats to HQ it. You're looking at 20+million as a one time investment to be able to get that; even augmented scrip gear won't work. And even then unless you can make all parts and gather them you are saving maybe 50% or less on the cost of the finished item if you buy HQ mats.

I supplied several people with the new 350-HQ-gear And I spend about an hour yesterday crafting Crimson Cider for our little casual static.
I know what effort is required to get the stats for that - I have a full, self-made, overmelded to the top ala mhigan set. I think I spend about 3-4 million on it in the end (needed some more materia) - you can get materia elsewhere. You can get all the mats yourself. (And yes, you should ignore the yellow scrips gear...)
Granted, I had a foot in the crafting endgame since ARR... so I know its tedious and not hush-hush easy to get your crafters ready and rolling, but its not "too hard" and if you want to supply yourse... oh wait, I forgot - the whole thread is about people who dont even want to run Sigma NM more than once a week to get gear. My bad. Dont bother with crafting. Find a crafter-friend. Treat them nicely!

But even if you dont end up making the gear yourself: if you're "broke af" you can level up a crafter, just to do the weekly Zhloe/Naago turn ins, get some cheap and easy yellow and red scrips, but materia and mats for those and sell them without the need of a huge time investment.

[Shurrikhan]

Would you rather have the game randomly roll one of the 7 armor classes, randomly roll the gear slot too and then (assuming you can actually use the drop) make you roll against teammates who use the same gear type (who will roll "Need" even if it's not an upgrade)? That's the dungeon / 24-man loot method and it's way more random than what we have now.

One poor system being worse than another poor system does not mean the first isn't worse than it needs to be.

Personal loot, for instance, is yet another commonly used loot distribution in MMOs and faces downsides only in situations where a static is consistent across a tier and vying for early progression.