Mouse Over Macros

[Katlyna]

I raid with mouse over healing macros. You can't make them too complex but you also have to be very aware of the macro sequence priority sequence.

The most reliable mouse over macro is to have mouseover the ONLY option and mouse over the party faceplates (this also works on alliance raids):

/macroicon "Benefic"
/ac "Benefic" <mouse>

The most unreliable way to do a mouse over macro is to have two or more target conditions. The FFXIV macro system doesn't do what you would expect necessarily when casting becomes available and check if there is a mouse over option first and then general heal situation (target or self if you have smart casting enabled). Instead when you use the macro regardless if you can cast or not the macro starts. If casting becomes valid in the middle of macro execution it can skip the mouse over clause and default to healing our target or yourself. This occurs frequently since the Macro system doesn't queue and when using macros you have to spam click to heal effectively. Not a fun implementation.

/macroicon "Benefic"
/ac "Benefic" <mouse>
/ac "Benefic"

The following is a compromise which I use for raiding, solo and general party play. You can use /mlock to force the current macro to finish before another macro can start casting, this avoids weirdness of cutoff macros when spamming. Then you duplicate the scenario which should be checked first. What this does is artificially check the first condition many times, before "risking" checking and executing the secondary condition. This greatly raises the consistency of a mouse over macro with a secondary condition. Also target of target is often the secondary condition you would desire over mouse over, especially if you tend to hold your right mouse button down while moving/dpsing/tankhealing.

/macroicon "Benefic"
/mlock
/ac "Benefic" <mouse>
/ac "Benefic" <mouse>
/ac "Benefic" <mouse>
/ac "Benefic" <mouse>
/ac "Benefic" <mouse>
/ac "Benefic" <mouse>
/ac "Benefic" <mouse>
/ac "Benefic" <mouse>
/ac "Benefic" <mouse>
/ac "Benefic" <mouse>
/ac "Benefic" <mouse>
/ac "Benefic" <mouse>
/ac "Benefic" <tt>

Anyway those are my thoughts on how to compensate for mouse over healing problems in this game.

[DKage]

The problem I'm having is healing myself when I'm trying to heal someone else. It's EXTREMELY annoying.

My macro line is simple
/micon "skill"
/ac "skill" <mo>
nothing else.

Healing anything other than the being I'm trying to heal is absolutely irritating.

[Waemliht]

Just to be safe, you are hovering over the party window to heal them? It's alot more reliable than dealing with character models.

Also are you using them for gcds? If youre spamming the macro and then moving your mouse it may find a new target (such as a monster in which case you will heal yourself ) this isite, again, because macros don't queue

[DKage]

Yeah, I use the party window. It'd be nuts trying to heal specific allies if they're on the move or grouped up in a bunch.

As far as accidentally healing myself instead of my intended target, no idea. My mouse is clearly in the right place, but here I am, healing myself instead... occasionally. I mean, for crying out loud, at least heal the person above or below the intended target on the list. Then I'd at least know I misclicked. And considering my UI set up, the odds of a boss being under my mouse when I heal an ally is EXTREMELY low.

The whole reason I went to mo macro is cause I wanted to stop healing myself, (way back in ARR) I used to do click healing and would randomly heal myself, which I thought happened cause they went out of range or something, so I switched to MO. This must only be happening to me... No one should be able to give me any arguments about healing myself instead of my target with click healing. And yes, it was obviously on an ally and not on an enemy.

If only I could just turn off the possibility of healing myself without targeting or putting the mouse over my name... this includes the garbage of healing yourself if you're targeting or have your mouse over a target that can't be healed. I swear that wasn't a thing once cause I'd have to use target of target to heal myself when I soloed. With MO healing, that is...

[Riyshn]

At some point in the SB patch cycle <mo> behavior has changed to include default self-targeting. The previous behavior was that a spell would only default to self-target if it had either no modifier or <t>, while <tt>, <f>, and <mo> would all only target the specified way. Now they all self-target if the specified target is invalid, which is a significant downgrade from the previous behavior. And also just makes no sense - sure, if we don't specify a targeting modifier let the game have whatever default behavior it wants, but if we've specified anything other than <me>, it should never target as if we had.

Interestingly, we can now also assign modifiers to spells that only self-target. For example, [/ac "Sprint" <t>] will only execute if you have something targeted. I don't believe this was possible before, and it does now allow simple true/false statements.

[Rongway]

The problem I'm having is healing myself when I'm trying to heal someone else. It's EXTREMELY annoying.

I find this boggling, as when I try to heal someone with the same macro, it heals them or it says they're out of range/sight. It does nothing if nothing is under the mouse, and it never redirects to me unless the thing under the mouse is a hostile or noncombatant object/NPC.