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    GPU usage is way too high for some time now!

    Hello everyone and Support-Team,

    I don't know how known this issue is, some people told me, that it is known by the SE-Team but couldn't give me any proof of that, I couldn't even find it here (maybe didn't see that).

    So the issue is as following:

    Since some patch (I can't really say when, because I didn't notice until I opened my Task-Manager) my GPU-usage is @100%. (it must have been a patch after 4.0, because everything was fine after release).
    Just for general information, I'm using a NVIDIA GTX 970.

    The point is, others with better GPU's like the GTX 1080 are at about 80% and so on, it's way too high. I can't stream anymore, because of this issue (and it was no problem before!).

    Is there any information regarding this issue? I'd like this problem to be addressed, because I believe the lag issue in dungeons etc is coppled with this issue, too (like in Byakko with the balls coming from center sometimes "lag", seems like GPU load peaked there or something).

    And even tested around a little, even in non crowded places, like my house or the guest-room, it's load is on about 90-100%, changing the settings didn't change much either! Someone else with a 970 as well can confirm this, so yes this is a real thing and has nothing to do with my general setup!

    Hope there is information about this soon!

    with kind regards

    John
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    Maybe its Nvidia too. They tend to make older models slowly worse and worse over time, to make sure you dont keep using them, even thought they can handle newer games at lower settings.
    But I have no idea how to tell when its them vs an error on SEs part.
    (Quite a few times a patch has come out for 14, and an NVidia driver comes out roughly similar in timing. Though I havent checked in a long while as I stopped updating.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    Maybe its Nvidia too. They tend to make older models slowly worse and worse over time, to make sure you dont keep using them, even thought they can handle newer games at lower settings.
    But I have no idea how to tell when its them vs an error on SEs part.
    (Quite a few times a patch has come out for 14, and an NVidia driver comes out roughly similar in timing. Though I havent checked in a long while as I stopped updating.)
    Problem is, it's with newer Cards as well, like 1080, and I did quite some different updates now with nvidia, it changed, saddly, nothing... Only difference with newer cards, they can handle it bcs they have more power and VRAM... but that's all^^"
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    Quote Originally Posted by joegoku View Post
    Problem is, it's with newer Cards as well, like 1080, and I did quite some different updates now with nvidia, it changed, saddly, nothing... Only difference with newer cards, they can handle it bcs they have more power and VRAM... but that's all^^"
    let me tell you that SE f***ed up the last patch and its taking the toll on everyone. I have gtx 970 as well and I can run games on ultra or very high settings but since 4.2 came out FF has kept crashing down ever since. I didn't check the consumption and id rather not but I can tell you that my graphics card is super hot and I know for a fact it shouldn't be. not with a game like FF its just ridiculous and unacceptable. changing graphic setting in the game doesn't change a thing its still the same so yeah SE needs to sort this asap because I know quite a few hundred players that are willing to unsub from FF at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    Maybe its Nvidia too. They tend to make older models slowly worse and worse over time, to make sure you dont keep using them, even thought they can handle newer games at lower settings.
    But I have no idea how to tell when its them vs an error on SEs part.
    (Quite a few times a patch has come out for 14, and an NVidia driver comes out roughly similar in timing. Though I havent checked in a long while as I stopped updating.)
    Please don't spread FUD. It has been proven again and again and again that this is uttterly false.
    Nor Nvidia or AMD slow their GPUs over time. It's the games that become more demanding over time.
    In fact both companies slightly icnrease the performance of older models through driver optimizations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joegoku View Post
    Hello everyone and Support-Team,

    I don't know how known this issue is, some people told me, that it is known by the SE-Team but couldn't give me any proof of that, I couldn't even find it here (maybe didn't see that).

    So the issue is as following:

    Since some patch (I can't really say when, because I didn't notice until I opened my Task-Manager) my GPU-usage is @100%. (it must have been a patch after 4.0, because everything was fine after release).
    Just for general information, I'm using a NVIDIA GTX 970.

    The point is, others with better GPU's like the GTX 1080 are at about 80% and so on, it's way too high. I can't stream anymore, because of this issue (and it was no problem before!).

    Is there any information regarding this issue? I'd like this problem to be addressed, because I believe the lag issue in dungeons etc is coppled with this issue, too (like in Byakko with the balls coming from center sometimes "lag", seems like GPU load peaked there or something).

    And even tested around a little, even in non crowded places, like my house or the guest-room, it's load is on about 90-100%, changing the settings didn't change much either! Someone else with a 970 as well can confirm this, so yes this is a real thing and has nothing to do with my general setup!

    Hope there is information about this soon!

    with kind regards

    John
    Hello , Are you still experiencing this issue? please keep us updated on your issue.
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    This issue is a constant thing, so yeah, as mentioned, since some patch and many more are having this issue. It doen't make the game "unplayable", but it does make it impossible doing something else on the PC like streaming.
    I will leave a picture here, just so u see what is meant

    Btw, my CPU is sleeping there, would spend some of the CPU's power to regain some of my GPU's
    Other Infos: Playing on DX11 and on max settings (plus optimisation from NVIDIA Experience). I play on Renderless Window Mode and thats all.

    And as SimplyJames168 said, changing settings to lower specs doesn't change alot (like nothing at all).



    Edit: Just got something interesting, a friend of mine is using an older GPU, it's the GTX750 and has a GPU load of around 30%.

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    Thank you for the update joegoku.

    Have you tried directx 9 mode? Does this have any difference?

    You mentioned you were using Nvidia Experience, have you tried disabling that? Do you have any other overlays/programs like that running at the same time?

    Have you ever overclocked your GPU in the past (not necessarily now)?

    We hope we can be of assistance in helping you enjoy the exciting world of Final Fantasy XIV!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Einmimiria View Post
    Thank you for the update joegoku.

    Have you tried directx 9 mode? Does this have any difference?

    You mentioned you were using Nvidia Experience, have you tried disabling that? Do you have any other overlays/programs like that running at the same time?

    Have you ever overclocked your GPU in the past (not necessarily now)?

    We hope we can be of assistance in helping you enjoy the exciting world of Final Fantasy XIV!
    Tried DX9 and disabled NVIDIA Exp Overlay, same, even at Titel-Screen:



    Did no overclocking at all (even so its a OC-Version GPU and especialy made for overclocking from ZOTAC) The GPU is a year old or so, so it's still in it's "youth".
    No other Programs running, no overlays active and same Problem. It's like FF says "you have to go full throttle now, GPU". Everything else works fine, other games and stuff all run as they should and as said, I didn't have had the problem before, not at 4.0 launch either. Others have it too, someone with the same GPU is in my static as well and can confirm this.

    And as mentioned before, a GTX750 runs smoothly with minimal settings, my GTX970 is still on fire with low settings (or mid-notebook settings). GTX1080 from someone else is on about 70-80. Maybe an issue with the Chips of NVIDIA with the 9xx and 10xx Generation on FF XIV right now?
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    Can confirm that a GTX1050 also has this problem, went from 35-40% usage to basically 100%(varies slightly between 98-100%). Have tried bare minimal settings and still basically maxing out the GPU. Tried rolling back to several different drivers and it still continues. the only thing that drops the GPU usage is if i hard limit my FPS to 30 or less. And i know its not my GPU cause i can run newer games on at least middle range settings. so I think this is something to do with FF14. only thing i can think up is they tried to optimize something and buggered it and now its causing a huge increase in usage.

    I'm changing out to a new hard drive tomorrow so that will require a fresh install of FF14 so ill post tomorrow if that changes anything
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