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    Gokki's Avatar
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    Gokki Di
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    Twintania
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    Red Mage Lv 100

    The entire glamour system is a mess

    I am a huge fan of Glamour. I love collecting appearances and being able to change my armour and weapons often. However, the current glamour system is a convoluted mess of complexity. I won't debate on if this is good or bad design, but rather propose a much simpler and streamlined solution.

    Glamour Collection
    Instead of another inventory space where we drop our items into, Glamour Dresser would become our Glamour Collection. Any items dropped into the Dresser would be usable for glamour at any time anywhere as regular glamour. The 200 item limit should be lifted, as it makes no sense.

    Glamour Sets
    Instead of a simple collection of items split by slot, the Glamour Dresser would feature set icons, with a 0/5 on them (or 0/6, 0/10, 0/12 depending on how many pieces each set has), and categorized by type, such as Crafting, Job, Dungeon, etc... Clicking on these would open a small window that shows each individual piece of that set. Players can preview each item regardless if they have it or not, they can also preview the set itself to see all items at once. All items start greyed out, and players can put items into the Dresser to fill these out.

    Cast Glamour
    Items can be set to Favorites individually, or entire sets at once. These would appear at the top of the list when choosing an item in Cast Glamour. Players can also choose to Hide Items to drop them to the bottom of the list. Cast Glamour should also let players sort items by lvl, by name, by quality, by rarity and dyeability. Players can also apply an entire set at once (with the respective cost of Prisms).

    Achievements
    Collecting full sets will also grant new achievements, for example: collecting all dungeon sets in ARR will grant "Nothing to Wear: Dungeons"

    Conclusion
    The Glamour Dresser should act as a collection of all glamour we collect, for its use at any time for regular use of Cast Glamour on our items. The current system is very clunky and does not promote more use of Glamour, many players feel anxious in destroying their glamour items that can only be accessed from the Dresser in an inn room. Giving players the freedom to collect the game's appearances and using them should be the primary mission, as collecting all glamours is impossible due to inventory limits - the Glamour Dresser would solve this problem by allowing us to collect everything.
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    Last edited by Gokki; 02-10-2018 at 09:30 PM. Reason: Character Limit

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    Player
    Kohlian's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Koh Lian
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 7
    Glamour Sets, please become a thing.
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    Sei'na Jynn-sai
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 80
    SE, please just copy WoW's system. They did it perfect already.
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    Sylvestre Solscribe
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I agree the wow system is by far the best
    However I think there's a reason they have so much trouble with inventory space and whatnot, (which is odd considering most player have 1 character).
    I wonder how they codes that but it seems to be both troublesome to change and terribly in effective when it comes to data processing between server and client
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  5. #5
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    MistakeNot's Avatar
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvain View Post
    I agree the wow system is by far the best
    However I think there's a reason they have so much trouble with inventory space and whatnot, (which is odd considering most player have 1 character).
    I wonder how they codes that but it seems to be both troublesome to change and terribly in effective when it comes to data processing between server and client
    From what I understand they sync your entire inventory with the server every few seconds - even if you are just walking around with the inventory closed.
    This means that any increase in inventory space will result in increased server load.

    Do not ask me why it was been coded like this. To me it sounds horribly inefficient.
    Apparently one of the many problems inherited from 1.0
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    Sumi Mi
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    From what I understand they sync your entire inventory with the server every few seconds - even if you are just walking around with the inventory closed.
    This means that any increase in inventory space will result in increased server load.

    Do not ask me why it was been coded like this. To me it sounds horribly inefficient.
    Apparently one of the many problems inherited from 1.0
    Likely because they sync your entire character data to lodestone, which to me is a completely useless (and unnecessary) feature.

    As someone who's never played wow I can't compare but this glamour system would be a great fix to what we have now though.
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  7. #7
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    Wintersandman's Avatar
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    Winter Sandman
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 70
    I am all for whatever just no achievements........ this is me being entirely selfish since I alone find glamour in general to be meh. But I can see the appeal of having an achievement for those who enjoy it. But my OCD about achievements I would have to do it.
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    Sylvestre Solscribe
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Can't they just update your character when you log off...
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Do not ask me why it was been coded like this. To me it sounds horribly inefficient.
    Apparently one of the many problems inherited from 1.0
    Backups that frequent is to prevent data loss if say the servers crash you don't lose any of the work you've done. Yeah sounds like an enormous amount of data processing to keep making copies of all the character data, all the time, but have to just to be safe.
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    Sylvestre Solscribe
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    Backups that frequent is to prevent data loss if say the servers crash you don't lose any of the work you've done. Yeah sounds like an enormous amount of data processing to keep making copies of all the character data, all the time, but have to just to be safe.
    Well shouldn't the server simply update when you actually do something instead of constantly even when you're doing nothing?
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