SAM rotation | DPS

[Quor]

Maybe I can help OP. My SAM is about ilvl 335, and I've been able to beat the 05S dummy with 2-3 seconds to spare using a Byakko weapon. As a result of my gear, I have ~1800 SkS and mid 1200's on crit and DH. My opener goes Kasha combo > Hagakure > Gekko combo > Kaiten+Meikyo > Higanbana > Yukikaze+Guren > Kasha > Gekko > Kaiten+Midare then proceed as usual, throwing out Shinten's as needed, and basically using Hagakure on CD (usually 1-2 Sen, sometimes 3). I like this opener because it gets Hagakure, Meikyo and Guren on CD pretty quickly, meaning they're up more often over the course of a fight. I'm not a pro SAM by any means, but it works for me. Hope it helps and good luck.

[Dzian]

Maybe I can help OP. My SAM is about ilvl 335, and I've been able to beat the 05S dummy with 2-3 seconds to spare using a Byakko weapon. As a result of my gear, I have ~1800 SkS and mid 1200's on crit and DH. My opener goes Kasha combo > Hagakure > Gekko combo > Kaiten+Meikyo > Higanbana > Yukikaze+Guren > Kasha > Gekko > Kaiten+Midare then proceed as usual, throwing out Shinten's as needed, and basically using Hagakure on CD (usually 1-2 Sen, sometimes 3). I like this opener because it gets Hagakure, Meikyo and Guren on CD pretty quickly, meaning they're up more often over the course of a fight. I'm not a pro SAM by any means, but it works for me. Hope it helps and good luck.

Keeping hagakure on cool down by using it on 1-2 sen doesn't really pay off in the long run.
For example based on your post. if you use hagakure 10 times in lets say 7 minutes at 1-2 sen each time, you're total kenki gain is a maximum 400.
if however you wait and use hagakure 7 times in 7 minutes always at 3 sen you're total kenki gain is 420. (average of hagakure every 60 seconds gives you a very generous 20 seconds to build any extra sen each time.)

in this instance hagakure can be sitting there for a 20 seconds every minute off cooldown and you're still better off. if some of those 10 hagkures you used were only 1 sen then the gain from waiting for 3 is going to be even bigger.

it's nearly always worth building to 3 rather than simply using it on cooldown.

If I wantto get higabana up early the opener I generally do is something like this.

hakaze > shifu > kasha > hakaze > jinpu > kaiten + higabana > gecko > meikyo > yukikaze > shinten> kasha > hagakure. > guren > gecko > shinten> hakaze > shifu > kasha > hakaze > shinten > yukikaze > kaiten + meikyo.

should just about manage to get jinpu refreshed before it drops off.

[Shurrikhan]

My advice: Get to a GCD of 2s or slightly less. Then everything kind of syncs up on its own.

If you have a WAR, the WS rotation is invariably Ka-Getsu-Setsu, with Higan on 6th GCD for 3Sen or 7th for 1Sen Hagakure. 3Sen for 6th GCD Trick Attack, 1Sen for 7th. 3Sen will more often be preferable. For 1Sen, Potion before Gekka (before GCD 6). For 3Sen, you can Potion before Kasha (before GCD 3).

If you have no WAR, I personally prefer to pre-cast MKSS and just get in Yukikaze, Shifu, Kasha, with a 2Sen opening Hagakure, though you can move it a GCD earlier with a 1Sen Haga right after Yukikaze. Depending on your GCD and prepull reliability, you can swap the Kasha and therefore 2Sen a GCD earlier, delaying Shifu to GCD#3.

If MKSS comes up just before you'd use Iajutsu, pop it first so it comes back a GCD faster, so long as you can still get all 3 hits into the 10s duration.

Keep Kenki below 30 unless you know you can burn the excess before your next Hagakure. Bank as much as possible when your next Guren will arrive before your next Hagakure. If it's arriving in the same GCD, burn to 70 (or 90 with necessary Dash).

Dummy test. At around a 2.15 GCD, Hagakure 2 and 5 need to be 2Sen to replace Higanbana in time, iirc. At a >2.45 or <2.00 GCD, 3Sen should time out correctly.

At a 2.45 GCD, a 1Sen opener will allow you to perfect every Hagakure to follow if you keep full uptime. Crit purity recommended.

[Itesh_Sennin]

I have a quick question. I'm using the 350 crafted gear, what should I be going for in terms of Materia (I won't be overmelding). Here are my current stats:


Offensive Properties
Critical Hit Rate 1293
Determination 1013
Direct Hit Rate 1386

Physical Properties
Attack Power 2626
Skill Speed 1159

I'm just coming back to the game after a bit of a break, any tips are appreciated. I'm also using this as a way to understand what I should be prioritizing and opening with:
https://imgur.com/mAcvEGg

[Ecchy]

Hey, are you still playing the game? If so, and your are still playing SAM, hit me up!

IGN: Ecchy Mosis

[LinXiaoMei]

I have a quick question. I'm using the 350 crafted gear, what should I be going for in terms of Materia (I won't be overmelding). Here are my current stats:


Offensive Properties
Critical Hit Rate 1293
Determination 1013
Direct Hit Rate 1386

Physical Properties
Attack Power 2626
Skill Speed 1159

I'm just coming back to the game after a bit of a break, any tips are appreciated. I'm also using this as a way to understand what I should be prioritizing and opening with:
https://imgur.com/mAcvEGg

Not overmelding is kind of a waste to be honest. You should overmeld, and just base your materia off of the type of build you want to use between SKS and CRIT. Another thing I can recommend you do, is join The Balance discord server and just occasionally read up on the conversations and ask questions. Most of the time, questions you might have will have been answered and is a quick search away. It's helped me improve significantly. The pins are useful too.

[Eszi]

you put higanbana kinda late
@1:02 you used midare even though hagakure had ~4s left on its CD, you could've done hakaze->jinpu (hagakure)->gekko
@1:17 hagakure used with 2 sen instead of 3
@1:25 you used yukikaze combo to setup a sen for higanbana, yuki combo has the lowest potency
@1:45 you did hakaze->meikyo->yuki essentially wasting a "charge" of meikyo
@1:54 midare when hagakure has 2s left on its CD (again)
@1:55 shifu ran out, instead of refreshing it as quickly as possible you did a yuki combo first
@2:05 jinpu ran out
@2:15 when you see that guren has 5-10s left on cd right after using hagakure, hold kenki for it instead of spamming shintens
@2:42 the higanbana you put here was a dps loss, higanbana needs to tick for at least 45s to be a dps increase

+im guessing your gear is kinda meh, try to aim for this http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/157NG

[Sacred_Nym]

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