Unkillable healers

[UnrealTai]

Lol healers absolutely do NOT need a nerf.

First, any premade is going to target them and melt them like butter in a matter of 5 seconds or less. So nerf the class that we target and kill quickly? Makes no sense. In fact I would expect them to be buffed before nerfed. I honestly feel bad for them lately.

Most mael players will as well. Its the cowards that run from people that kill this. omg its people, run for your life! Get to base and do nothing for NO reason. No... stop it. And worse yet stop publically announcing your cowardice in chat by asking everyone else to join you at base and sit there being non productive.

1 War holmgangs, and 2 melees assisting will drop one in a heartbeat. Having a backup healer wont matter much during that. If they dont they are not good melee dps. Heartbeat as in 5-7 seconds. half that for battle high.

Second, mch and brd are insanely weak in 24 person matches. I used to main mch, but only in 72s to keep battle high the whole time. I still will, but again, only in 72s.

As OP stated they cant kill one. Do yourself a favor and do NOT use mch/brd in 24 person matches. Youre killing the group.

This is why more and more premades are popping up. Between people looking for carries cause they suck, and either gc swap or freelance, and others insisting on using jobs that suck even if youre a master at the role, the people that want to win are sick of it. So now all of those people get to deal with pre mades wiping up this bad skilled or bad job picked trash. Why bring this up? Because people that cant even kill a healer are the ones doing it so it applies.

While skill of the bard he played with is unknown the issue isnt the healer, its that brd and mch would need a slight buff for average players. Two skilled players could but would it be a few seconds? No, and then you have to think about perfect timing again if there is a second one, and thats what determines winning or losing. Throw 3 dif premades at each other and now its that + strategy.

Throw 2 Nin’s at one healer and it will melt so fast its not even funny regardless of the healers skill level. There are a lot of valid points here but at the end of the day if you place 2 master skilled ninas vs one healer, and two ranged dps vs another healer, the melee are going to win, get battle highs first, and drop your team out of the run in the big picture.

I know this because weve been doing it in 95% of our FL matches for the past few weeks, coming back to pvp again. Living proof.

Also healers, the premades apologize for making things crappy lately. Thank the skill-less band wagoners.

[legione]

Also healers, the premades apologize for making things crappy lately. Thank the skill-less band wagoners.

nah i keep thank whoever is in charge of pvp , i thank him every time i read a patch notes.

[Nova_Rox]

If you blindly mash buttons against a healer, especially solo, you're not going to have a good time. At that point it's a good idea to do some research about how to play jobs properly and how they interact with each other.

If you're on a job with proper CC, you can solo a healer if you catch them off guard.

Realistically though, if one person could solo a healer we would have much less healers running around. Are YOU going to heal when a DPS can look at you and melt you? Doubt it. It's already hard enough as is to get randoms to go healer, yet everyone seems to think they're OP. Seems like a disconnect here.

To everyone who thinks healers are OP: go healer for a few games. You will quickly learn how to properly go against one, and you will quickly realize that healers are from from OP.

In order to CONSISTENTLY kill healers, CC must be utilized properly and DPS/Tanks need to focus the same target. Try this macro out.

/p "Attacking Marked Target on 1"<wait.1>
/mk attack1
/mk attack5 <t> <wait.1>
/mk attack4 <attack5> <wait.1>
/mk attack3 <attack4> <wait.1>
/mk attack2 <attack3> <wait.1>
/mk attack1 <attack2> <wait.1>

Again, if healers could be melted instantly by anyone, even those who don't understand the basics, no one will play healer.

As it is it stands now it will take:
-1 skilled DPS with CC to kill an inexperienced healer
- multiple (2DPS and a tank or so) experienced folks to take out a experienced healer
- multiple inexperienced DPS to take out an inexperienced healer.

That's heavily simplified but gives an idea of balance around healer.

Remember that healers don't have AoE healing. Yeah, there are things like Assize and Synastry, but most healers will panic if lots of people are dropping. A tactic I like to do is slowly chip away at a healer, keep them high enough that they feel safe to heal other people. When the healer is at about 20% HP do your burst. This is as a SOLO player. With the macro above you will get at least one other person bursting with you which should lead to a kill.

[NessaWyvern]

I miss being a healer in HW. It was easier to keep others alive whereas it was a little harder to keep yourself alive, if you used your full kit in the feast as healer in HW, you would quickly win against a healer who didn't. I used to play a lot of diurnal Ast, but have switched to WHM in SB.