Caster Changes in 4.2 (RIP Casters)

[HaroldSaxon]

Seriously, just because a SMN comes close to being optimal (and wasn't even optimal), you decide to nerf it?

And with BLM, you just buff it to SAM levels which are already far from the meta?

What is it going to take for you to finally nerf Bard/Dragoon and Ninja? Do Square Enix ever want to see a Caster become optimal?

Absolutely staggering. Running both ranged physical or three melee classes is more optimal than running a single caster class. Think about that for a second.

[BorisDaBlade]

I don’t see where smn even needed those nerfs. And the blm changes are literally nothing. Putting us back to 3.x damage is fine, but still no added utility.

[Alleo]

That ruin III nerf honestly broke my poor heart. They said that our single target DPS would stay the same and that they would only nerf our AOE damage...yet ruin is there...why SE why? We finally were good again and then one patch later you do that?? You just lied to us in the liveletter...I cant even..

[Akor]

wait, arent yoshi said they will buff single target and nerf the aoe? hallo?

[Jxnibbles]

280 Fire 4 HA HA HA what a joke. Well back to waiting a whole patch.

[Karshan]

Given that Fire IV represents 40 (O3, O4) to 50% (O1, O2, dummy) of BLM damage, and a 280 potency is an 8% increase from 260, BLM overall DPS is buffed by 3 to 4 %.
That is indeed not enough if current meta synergy isn't changed.

Regarding SMN, we're looking at an overall 2% ST nerf (8% nerf on Ruin 3 that is 15 to 20% of damage source, and 6% nerf on WW ~6% damage source - Painflare is negligible on ST).

So the BLM vs SMN finally starts to be better looking for BLM, but still :
- only starts to, not enough
- no raid wide utility (people want to get buffed, so a class that cannot buff won't be picked even with great DPS)

As for the caster vs the rest, it clearly is not impacted...

[Neela]

"slight smn aoe nerf & big blm burst buff"... well... this is just.... another proof that se is actually still totally clueless how to handle/balance caster cls in any point... sad somehow...at least a lil chance that wtjs leave smn again... (...I just have to tell myself there is...anything good with this cls adjustments...q.q) ...Blms are still fucked up as well... this adjustment-round is just bad.

just looking back... didn't Ruin III start with 150 pot in total back in the days? and what about that wv nerf?... ever thought of removing addle from the trigger-list instead nerfing the pot itself?... and whats the deal with tri-bind... was it just a try & error idea with 4.1? the cast time already was salty in trance... wasting swift for it always felt bad... but now its near dead-skill status again. Not to mention that wv is a pet skill which is actually just 80% of player pot so its even less than this 160/150 fake-description pot... : /

[Maero]

The changes to blm are a damn joke, shows they have no clue what the ...
And the nerfs to smn are rather bad

[Remedi]

Given the background of their overall changes of the jobs during an expansion, there was 0 chance that they would've done anything different as I said countless times if ppl really expected anything more they were deluding themselves

[Deceptus]

So how about that SMN single target buff to compensate for the AOE gutting? /s