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    Request: Raiding Chest Lock Party Finder Option

    I'm making this post, purely because six people just got seriously shafted by two unknown players in the party I made. The six of us, oblivious to the two people lurking who had already cleared OS5 for the week, thus rendering us with only a single chest. (I did not see any messages upon entry - lesson learned).
    We were asked each time people joined the party "Two chests?" we would answer "Yes". This happened several times. However, it's pretty damn malicious of people to join KNOWINGLY screwing the rest of the party over on the drops.

    Request:
    It doesn't need an additional button, but a tweaking of a pre-existing button. For example the "Loot" selection could be adjusted for the Savage portion of party finder to lock in max number of chests.
    In opposition, "Duty Completion" could be adjusted to where it's not about the chests, but essentially just the book from completing.
    These tags are both descriptive, so why not put them to proper use to?
    OR, as Taika (post below) has mentioned: If the above is infeasible, make it so that the whole party is aware of the warning notice upon entry, not just a single player.

    Please consider the request for change as it only takes one person to screw over an entire party, surely preventative measures can be put in place? Peoples word isn't worth much nowadays.
    This happens all the time, we six are not in the boat alone, however this doesn't need to be the case.

    (PS: I am aware of the raid finder options, however, the lock should be under party finder to prevent time wasters from even joining the party in the first place).
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    Last edited by Kaldaka; 02-08-2018 at 10:16 PM.

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    Even if there wasn't any party finder option for it, you could check if there's any sneaky sneak in your party who has cleared for the week by checking "duty completion" when signing up for the raid. If there are people who has cleared it for the week the game will not let you enter the raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XykeVayaris View Post
    Even if there wasn't any party finder option for it, you could check if there's any sneaky sneak in your party who has cleared for the week by checking "duty completion" when signing up for the raid. If there are people who has cleared it for the week the game will not let you enter the raid.
    And then we are back to point A of setting up the PF > waiting for people > checking the raid finder. It's a time waste.
    A simple button would solve the issue of dealing with the untrustworthy (And people who don't read party descriptions).
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    In case someone in party has cleared for the week, the game will also warn you once you enter the instance with message like "<insert number> of 8 have completed the duty. The amount of coffer dropped will reduce to one (or zero if 4 or above have cleared)".

    I'm sorry for your loss but if you and the others with you ignored or failed to notice such warning from the game itself, the fault is entirely yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinMalvin View Post
    In case someone in party has cleared for the week, the game will also warn you once you enter the instance with message like "<insert number> of 8 have completed the duty. The amount of coffer dropped will reduce to one (or zero if 4 or above have cleared)".

    I'm sorry for your loss but if you and the others with you ignored or failed to notice such warning from the game itself, the fault is entirely yours.
    You miss the point: it's a request for an additional optional button, not a "QQ we can't read"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaldaka View Post
    You miss the point: it's a request for an additional optional button, not a "QQ we can't read"
    You sure? Cause the part of the post where you complained about only getting one chest certainly sounded like "QQ we can't read"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    You sure? Cause the part of the post where you complained about only getting one chest certainly sounded like "QQ we can't read"
    Possitive. It was the reason behind the request - Also, not an intentional complaint, it's the cause of the post/request is all.
    Did I word it badly?
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    Last edited by Kaldaka; 02-08-2018 at 07:23 PM.

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    Even with that option the party leader could mislead others (by setting it up after people who have already cleared for the week have joined, for example). The best change would be to change the warning to show for every single party member before entering the instance. Then everyone will know for sure how many chests there will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    Even with that option the party leader could mislead others (by setting it up after people who have already cleared for the week have joined, for example). The best change would be to change the warning to show for every single party member before entering the instance. Then everyone will know for sure how many chests there will be.
    That's a good point, or people could "invite friends" but surely, if a party leader themselves or someone pre-existing in the group make up has indeed clear it, the button could be unclickable, to prevent the deception. Whatcha think?

    On further thought, perhaps it doesn't even need an additional button, but a tweaking of a pre-existing button. For example the "Loot" selection could be adjusted for the Savage portion of party finder to lock in max number of chests.
    In opposition, "Duty Completion" could be adjusted to where it's not about the chests, but essentially just the book from completing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaldaka View Post
    On further thought, perhaps it doesn't even need an additional button, but a tweaking of a pre-existing button. For example the "Loot" selection could be adjusted for the Savage portion of party finder to lock in max number of chests.
    I like this idea! The current loot button has no function, it's simply descriptive. It could be changed to "Full loot" button, locking the group only for people who are entitled to 2 chests in the instance.

    To be honest though, I don't care what kind of a change they'll make, as long as the change means that party members don't have to blindly trust their party leader and fellow party members anymore.
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