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  1. #111
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one - so FCs should take priority with housing as seen by SE having housing purchases open ONLY to FCs right now.
    Nobody needs a house, and the wants of the many do not outweigh the wants of the few or one.

    Name one NPC that I can't get to in a major city, or has their goods available from a beast tribe. They're pure inconvenience and should be used as additional incentive for people to join an FC.
    Who is it an inconvenience for? You? It's sure a convenience to have all the shops I could possibly need or want all grouped up in an easy to access place. And why do we need incentives to join FCs? We have plenty in the form of actions and workshops.

    1. New players can't own as many houses as older players, and it's never good to have the haves and have nots.
    2. They never should have been able to get their houses in the first place.
    3. We have a housing shortage, and they are tying up more than their fair share of resources.
    1. We will always have haves and have-nots.
    2. And yet they were able, and when they did it they broke no written rules.
    3. That's Square's problem, not the owners'.
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  2. #112
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    Rufuso Aesir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    [*]I would rather this not be the case. If one has the means and funds to own a large house, they should have just as much opportunity to own a large house. (I approve)[*]What's the point of this? Hosuing NPCs are just as valuable for private owners as for FCs. Especially now that they released two entirely new model sets for the vendors.[*]They can't. Wards are already strained as it is.(I dissaprove,thats like encouraging them not to allow more mediums & larges like excuses are fine... I'm one to believe thats bs)[*]This is difficult, because wards strain the server so hard. They're instances of the same zone that remain in the constant memory of the server, as I understand it. For instance (no pun intended), when you queue for a duty from the inside of your house, on exiting the duty you're dropped into your ward. Why? Because the ward was already loaded in, and the inside of your house was not. It is troublesome for them to have to plop you from the duty instance to the inside of your housing instance because the inside of your housing instance would need to be called up at the same time as your characters movement in the instance server. (think outside the box, some persons are genious with maths & technology, this is 2018 not 2010)[*]No. It is wrong to punish people for not breaking rules. This is the point of grandfathering someone in. (I agree, i dont want that to happen, BUT AGAIN if thats the reason why they cant fix us a different design, then i say put down the grandfathering, because while ppl did nothing wrong, theres no fair in square with that atm at all.)

    We'll see videos like that no matter what is done. They could literally give every player a free mansion and upgrade every neighborhood to be both instanced for people who want it and ward-based for people who don't, answer every single critique and suggestion no matter how contradictory...and you'd still have people complaining about something. (while true, that would really make the minority & this is also one of the easiest thing to say & its pretty lame to use that comment imo)
    Flowers are nice, nothing wrong with that, matter of fact, i think ppl want bigger gardens to make more flowers!!
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    Last edited by Ruf; 02-13-2018 at 07:49 PM.

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  4. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Nobody needs a house, and the wants of the many do not outweigh the wants of the few or one.


    Who is it an inconvenience for? You? It's sure a convenience to have all the shops I could possibly need or want all grouped up in an easy to access place. And why do we need incentives to join FCs? We have plenty in the form of actions and workshops. (joining fc shouldnt be mendatory for a medium or a large, 0 reason to not allow everyone to have one)



    1. We will always have haves and have-nots. (arguable)
    2. And yet they were able, and when they did it they broke no written rules. (was not correct to allow that to begin with)
    3. That's Square's problem, not the owners'.
    (square can fix this & while i dissaprove to taking grandfathering out, THEN ALLOW SOMETHING ELSE FAIR & SQUARE FOR (((E V E R Y O N E))) (houseless individuals mansions/medium houses access) or just burn all plots & make them all adjustable)
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    Last edited by Ruf; 02-13-2018 at 07:56 PM.

  5. #114
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    Almagnus1's Avatar
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    Maley Oakensage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Nobody needs a house, and the wants of the many do not outweigh the wants of the few or one.
    Following that statement, we should get rid of personal housing and revert it to FC only, right? I mean, they have apartments and all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Who is it an inconvenience for? You? It's sure a convenience to have all the shops I could possibly need or want all grouped up in an easy to access place. And why do we need incentives to join FCs? We have plenty in the form of actions and workshops.
    Yes, because hiding inside of your house is such an engaging way to play an MMO >.>

    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    3. That's Square's problem, not the owners'.
    And SE should fix it by forcing the release of all who have more than one personal house, and all the houses in the shell FCs.
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  6. #115
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    1. No

    2. No

    3. Sure, nothing wrong with that

    4. I doubt SE can do this

    5. I doubt SE will do this



    I read the thread..... OP you have a really bad attitude, like how about you stop being rude to people just because they disagree with you??

    Flinging insults isn't going to get you anywhere and it just makes you yourself look bad and not worth listening to. Is it really worth it to call others stupid over MMO housing issues just because they don't share your personal opinion?
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    Last edited by Miste; 02-14-2018 at 12:06 AM.

  7. #116
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    I think OP just doesn't want to admit they are wrong and is trying to save face. It sure would explain why they haven't actually answered a number of questions directed at them.
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

  8. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Yes, because hiding inside of your house is such an engaging way to play an MMO >.>
    I hide in my house all the time but it wouldn't make a difference. I could craft inside or outside and still see the same amount of people.... 0. My ward was full pre-4.2 and I never saw a neighbor once since 4.1. I get some servers/wards are active but very few.
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  9. #118
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    Huh. A significant portion of this thread appears to have been deleted. Probably for the best.
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

  10. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    And yet, you keep responding to me.

    If I'm not getting to you, why are you continuing to whine at me instead of either responding with apathy or not responding at all? Doing the latter shows both weakness and that I'm getting to you.
    Or that people decided that you're not worth their daily limit of forums posts. Or people could just decide they don't need your hate in their life. ♥
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  11. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post

    Yes, because hiding inside of your house is such an engaging way to play an MMO >.>
    I am sitting in my own mog house all of the time in FF11 and trust me, it is a game that is demanding a lot more social than FF14. I am doing fine in that mmorpg.
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