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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    You know, for someone who was so quick to accuse others of personal attacks in your other thread, you sure to enjoy making them yourself. Unless you work for SE and know their infrastructure, you can’t make assumptions on their hardware when they themselves have said numerous times that they have server limitations.
    That's really funny coming from someone that said:

    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    I'm not going to argue with you past this post because there's no point
    Why are you still arguing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Why are you still arguing?
    Because I can't stand when people turn to ad hominem as a new base for their arguments when no one agrees with them. Nor can I stand it when people are hypocritical, or when a pot starts calling the kettles black.

    People don't agree with your suggestion. That doesn't make them "less intelligent" for it. So enough of the failed attempts at being cheeky. And if you're going to insist that others are personally attacking you or being "drama queens", it would be best for you to not behave like you claim others are behaving. People would maybe be more keen to listen to you if you did that.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 02-13-2018 at 02:11 PM.
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    If you think I'm unnerved by you, you are sorely mistaken, I'm afraid.

    I'm still waiting for you to quote where I have personally attacked you. I asked you before, and have never received an answer. Disagreeing with you and questioning your logic/reasoning for these suggestions is not a personal attack. Neither is commenting on pieces you have said to other posters with my opinions on your statements.

    With regards to this thread, my very first post asked you why implement some of these suggestions. And it went unanswered. If you want to make suggestions, you should probably explain WHY you are making them.

    WHY limit mansions only to FCs?
    WHY limit the Housing NPCs to FCs only?
    WHY revert and decide to forceibly release houses of individuals that were already grandfathered in?

    At least the third you somewhat answered, though with a very poor comparison liking people that own multiple virtual houses to slave owners, which, again, is not a fair or good comparison. But the others you never answered.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 02-13-2018 at 07:02 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    If you think I'm unnerved by you, you are sorely mistaken, I'm afraid.
    And yet, you keep responding to me.

    If I'm not getting to you, why are you continuing to whine at me instead of either responding with apathy or not responding at all? Doing the latter shows both weakness and that I'm getting to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    WHY limit mansions only to FCs?
    Needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one - so FCs should take priority with housing as seen by SE having housing purchases open ONLY to FCs right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    WHY limit the Housing NPCs to FCs only?
    Name one NPC that I can't get to in a major city, or has their goods available from a beast tribe. They're pure inconvenience and should be used as additional incentive for people to join an FC.

    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    WHY revert and decide to forceibly release houses of individuals that were already grandfathered in?
    1. New players can't own as many houses as older players, and it's never good to have the haves and have nots.
    2. They never should have been able to get their houses in the first place.
    3. We have a housing shortage, and they are tying up more than their fair share of resources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one - so FCs should take priority with housing as seen by SE having housing purchases open ONLY to FCs right now.
    Nobody needs a house, and the wants of the many do not outweigh the wants of the few or one.

    Name one NPC that I can't get to in a major city, or has their goods available from a beast tribe. They're pure inconvenience and should be used as additional incentive for people to join an FC.
    Who is it an inconvenience for? You? It's sure a convenience to have all the shops I could possibly need or want all grouped up in an easy to access place. And why do we need incentives to join FCs? We have plenty in the form of actions and workshops.

    1. New players can't own as many houses as older players, and it's never good to have the haves and have nots.
    2. They never should have been able to get their houses in the first place.
    3. We have a housing shortage, and they are tying up more than their fair share of resources.
    1. We will always have haves and have-nots.
    2. And yet they were able, and when they did it they broke no written rules.
    3. That's Square's problem, not the owners'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Nobody needs a house, and the wants of the many do not outweigh the wants of the few or one.


    Who is it an inconvenience for? You? It's sure a convenience to have all the shops I could possibly need or want all grouped up in an easy to access place. And why do we need incentives to join FCs? We have plenty in the form of actions and workshops. (joining fc shouldnt be mendatory for a medium or a large, 0 reason to not allow everyone to have one)



    1. We will always have haves and have-nots. (arguable)
    2. And yet they were able, and when they did it they broke no written rules. (was not correct to allow that to begin with)
    3. That's Square's problem, not the owners'.
    (square can fix this & while i dissaprove to taking grandfathering out, THEN ALLOW SOMETHING ELSE FAIR & SQUARE FOR (((E V E R Y O N E))) (houseless individuals mansions/medium houses access) or just burn all plots & make them all adjustable)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Nobody needs a house, and the wants of the many do not outweigh the wants of the few or one.
    Following that statement, we should get rid of personal housing and revert it to FC only, right? I mean, they have apartments and all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Who is it an inconvenience for? You? It's sure a convenience to have all the shops I could possibly need or want all grouped up in an easy to access place. And why do we need incentives to join FCs? We have plenty in the form of actions and workshops.
    Yes, because hiding inside of your house is such an engaging way to play an MMO >.>

    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    3. That's Square's problem, not the owners'.
    And SE should fix it by forcing the release of all who have more than one personal house, and all the houses in the shell FCs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Yes, because hiding inside of your house is such an engaging way to play an MMO >.>
    I hide in my house all the time but it wouldn't make a difference. I could craft inside or outside and still see the same amount of people.... 0. My ward was full pre-4.2 and I never saw a neighbor once since 4.1. I get some servers/wards are active but very few.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post

    Yes, because hiding inside of your house is such an engaging way to play an MMO >.>
    I am sitting in my own mog house all of the time in FF11 and trust me, it is a game that is demanding a lot more social than FF14. I am doing fine in that mmorpg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    And yet, you keep responding to me.

    If I'm not getting to you, why are you continuing to whine at me instead of either responding with apathy or not responding at all? Doing the latter shows both weakness and that I'm getting to you.
    Or that people decided that you're not worth their daily limit of forums posts. Or people could just decide they don't need your hate in their life. ♥
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