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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    In no particular order, here are the next batch of changes SE should make to the housing system:
    1. Restrict Large houses to FC only.
    2. Restrict housing NPCs to FC only.
    3. Increase garden spaces on all houses to the large house capacity.
    4. Add five wards to all neighborhoods with every major patch (4.3, 4.4, 5.0) until the issue is resolved.
    5. Forcibly release houses are are in violation to the ownership terms defined in 4.2 and provide the owners at least a month of warning prior to the patch this goes live to make arrangements so the automated rules don't do it for them.
    1. I would rather this not be the case. If one has the means and funds to own a large house, they should have just as much opportunity to own a large house.
    2. What's the point of this? Hosuing NPCs are just as valuable for private owners as for FCs. Especially now that they released two entirely new model sets for the vendors.
    3. They can't. Wards are already strained as it is.
    4. This is difficult, because wards strain the server so hard. They're instances of the same zone that remain in the constant memory of the server, as I understand it. For instance (no pun intended), when you queue for a duty from the inside of your house, on exiting the duty you're dropped into your ward. Why? Because the ward was already loaded in, and the inside of your house was not. It is troublesome for them to have to plop you from the duty instance to the inside of your housing instance because the inside of your housing instance would need to be called up at the same time as your characters movement in the instance server.
    5. No. It is wrong to punish people for not breaking rules. This is the point of grandfathering someone in.
    It's time to slay this problem and end the slum lords for good.
    You ever had an actual slumlord? I have. They suck. Also the scalping and reselling businesses were essentially killed off by the added randomness to a house being repurchasable after it's demolished.

    Otherwise we're going to keep seeing videos like [URL="[/URL] appear because the housing system is fundamentally flawed.
    We'll see videos like that no matter what is done. They could literally give every player a free mansion and upgrade every neighborhood to be both instanced for people who want it and ward-based for people who don't, answer every single critique and suggestion no matter how contradictory...and you'd still have people complaining about something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Cactaur's Wallflower....
    You must have something for our dear HyoMin, comparing her to a flower like that. I don't think she's interested though.
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    Last edited by Dualgunner; 02-13-2018 at 07:28 PM.

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    Rufuso Aesir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    [*]I would rather this not be the case. If one has the means and funds to own a large house, they should have just as much opportunity to own a large house. (I approve)[*]What's the point of this? Hosuing NPCs are just as valuable for private owners as for FCs. Especially now that they released two entirely new model sets for the vendors.[*]They can't. Wards are already strained as it is.(I dissaprove,thats like encouraging them not to allow more mediums & larges like excuses are fine... I'm one to believe thats bs)[*]This is difficult, because wards strain the server so hard. They're instances of the same zone that remain in the constant memory of the server, as I understand it. For instance (no pun intended), when you queue for a duty from the inside of your house, on exiting the duty you're dropped into your ward. Why? Because the ward was already loaded in, and the inside of your house was not. It is troublesome for them to have to plop you from the duty instance to the inside of your housing instance because the inside of your housing instance would need to be called up at the same time as your characters movement in the instance server. (think outside the box, some persons are genious with maths & technology, this is 2018 not 2010)[*]No. It is wrong to punish people for not breaking rules. This is the point of grandfathering someone in. (I agree, i dont want that to happen, BUT AGAIN if thats the reason why they cant fix us a different design, then i say put down the grandfathering, because while ppl did nothing wrong, theres no fair in square with that atm at all.)

    We'll see videos like that no matter what is done. They could literally give every player a free mansion and upgrade every neighborhood to be both instanced for people who want it and ward-based for people who don't, answer every single critique and suggestion no matter how contradictory...and you'd still have people complaining about something. (while true, that would really make the minority & this is also one of the easiest thing to say & its pretty lame to use that comment imo)
    Flowers are nice, nothing wrong with that, matter of fact, i think ppl want bigger gardens to make more flowers!!
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    Last edited by Ruf; 02-13-2018 at 07:49 PM.

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    1. No

    2. No

    3. Sure, nothing wrong with that

    4. I doubt SE can do this

    5. I doubt SE will do this



    I read the thread..... OP you have a really bad attitude, like how about you stop being rude to people just because they disagree with you??

    Flinging insults isn't going to get you anywhere and it just makes you yourself look bad and not worth listening to. Is it really worth it to call others stupid over MMO housing issues just because they don't share your personal opinion?
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    Last edited by Miste; 02-14-2018 at 12:06 AM.

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    I think OP just doesn't want to admit they are wrong and is trying to save face. It sure would explain why they haven't actually answered a number of questions directed at them.
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

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    Huh. A significant portion of this thread appears to have been deleted. Probably for the best.
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

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