Airships/Submarines/Workshop For Individuals

[gbe931]

Hi, with new housing available can SE finally please allow individual house owners the ability to have a workshop and be able make/craft housing items and a personal airship and submarine for exploration ventures? Not asking for 4 of each like FCs, just 1 or maybe 2 at max of each would be great. Some mats and items are exclusively locked behind this feature and if you locked out of this, you become subject to an over-inflated market board.

[Rinuko]

Yes please

[Brynne]

I'd really like this. I'd love to play around with airships and submarines, but I have no interest in running a FC and I'm in a large one for the social factor. I know the leaders put a lot of work into the workshops and the gil goes into FC events and such, so I wouldn't dream of being selfish and asking to play with it myself just for the sake of playing. But I would really like to play with it in my own house if it were possible. A smaller version of the same system would be perfect.

EDIT: Tbh, they should use this as an incentive if they release an additional instanced housing setup to get personal owners to move out of the wards. If you transfer your personal house to an instanced one (of any size), you get access to a small workshop! Instanced housing could be unlimited so everyone would have a chance to save up their gil and get it. I think this would free up a large portion of the wards for FCs. I'd move in a heartbeat.

[crc0427]

I disagree. FC Airships and Subs should be for FC's only. If you want to use one ask your FC for permission or make your own FC.

[Anarnee]

I disagree. FC Airships and Subs should be for FC's only. If you want to use one ask your FC for permission or make your own FC.

\o/ People like to complain about one person FCs taking up all the housing... Imma quote this next time I see any complaints.

Anyways I would like this. FCs can have up to four ships right? I don't see why allowing one personal ship would be a problem.

[MizArai]

I disagree. FC Airships and Subs should be for FC's only. If you want to use one ask your FC for permission or make your own FC.

FC airships and subs should be for FC use only; however, not everyone has access to mats and things gathered from them, and having to leave an FC you love just to have access to items from airships/ subs doesn't seem like the best idea. Would be much better to allow individuals access to a single airship and sub from Mor Dhona, Foundation, or even from personal housing. There have been lots of ideas about how SE could allow airship/ sub access as well as gardening access that isn't tied to housing to help people have more access to these items. I mean, it's great that you're the leader of a huge FC, but not all of us are so lucky. ;-) ♥ you Zeo. /pet

[LaylaTsarra]

I disagree. FC Airships and Subs should be for FC's only. If you want to use one ask your FC for permission or make your own FC.

Why does that have to be the case? I don't see that most members benefit from airships in a FC. The leadership does and a few select people. Airships bring back tons of mats which are rarely shared with the membership. The membership for the most part has no clue given most mats are stored on retainers owned by the leadership.

I see no harm whatsoever other than the loss of the rarity of some exclusive mats and the gil associated with them given a lot more people would have access to them.

Open it up as many have suggested here with private housing or some public venue where all can participate.

[ChameleonMS]

I don't see that most members benefit from airships in a FC. The leadership does and a few select people.

Outside of the leadership and those select few, did the other members actually contribute to the creation of those airships / submarines?
This is usually a no, they did not contribute.
Have they donated Gil or housing items for decoration? Likely not.

If you are a member that does contribute, those contributions are usually noticed and rewarded from the fruits of the FC exclusive items.
I remember when I was a low member on the ranks of a very large FC (300+ people). I donated Gil, Chocobo food, seeds, fed chocobos in the stables, and materia to the FC. Within a short period of time, I was promoted from that low rank to a near leadership rank with many privileges. You earn the rewards by your contributions.

There is the problem of RNG from airship rewards, e.g. my FCs airships have not returned a single Cloud's breath seed in the last 2 1/2 months and all of them hit 3 sectors which can return it every run.
There is also the problem of education, in our FC page 1 of the chest is open to exchange for all but the two lowest ranks. We keep materia / orchestration role mats / chocobo food / stable brooms in there. And you know what, only same 5 people in the leadership ever remove anything from that page.

OP, I disagree, FC housing was suppose to be a social activity with rewards for working together as a group. It is bad enough that personal plots have gardening. They should not have that either IMO.

[LaylaTsarra]

Outside of the leadership and those select few, did the other members actually contribute to the creation of those airships / submarines?

Thank you for confirming that the leadership and a select few benefit from the rewards from airships and submarines. Sounds like gardening is also one of those special perks for your inside group to benefit from as well. You see that's exactly the point, airships, submarines and gardening should be for everyone not just a small little inner circle who control everything.

[Almagnus1]

Why aren't we already working with the machinsts in Ishgard or Garlond Ironworks for the airships and subs?

That's a great way to allow a player (albeit, with a bit of effort) a way to get their own airship - especially if they're willing to front all the resources for their own ship.

For that matter, why can't I have an airship that's effectively my house?