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    Dresdel's Avatar
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    Dres J'karr
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 81

    Frontlines are miserable right now

    Before the PvP changes it was fun to go into Frontlines as a monk. Now its absolutely miserable. You have no stun, one way to engage ranged which doesn't stop them from getting away, no way to fight bards or machinists who can kill you as they run away. Its just a horrible experience.

    All classes should at least be viable. Monk since losing its stuns in pvp is horrible. I get in there and know its gonna suck because I cant keep up with anyone long enough to kill them, and that's not how a game should be.
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    Aria Fairchild
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    Brynhildr
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Apparently Feast is the only place where melees are still viable and some still advocate for it to die...guess which job(s) they main huh?
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by AriaFairchild View Post
    Apparently Feast is the only place where melees are still viable and some still advocate for it to die...guess which job(s) they main huh?
    Melee?

    Consider: The dev team has stated that their "balancing" focus is Feast. That means that so long as things are fine in Feast, they can be as broken one way or the other elsewhere as they like. If Feast were to die, they would have to shift their balancing focus elsewhere. And if melees are bad everywhere but Feast, that would necessarily mean buffing melee.

    Personally, I just chuckle that people consider "this" an issue while healers are still running rampant. At least ranged can still die to other ranged and don't require much coordination to kill 2v1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Consider: The dev team has stated that their "balancing" focus is Feast. That means that so long as things are fine in Feast, they can be as broken one way or the other elsewhere as they like. If Feast were to die, they would have to shift their balancing focus elsewhere. And if melees are bad everywhere but Feast, that would necessarily mean buffing melee.
    That is...actually a good point.
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    Xevia Vanothy
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Been getting Battle High/Fever as monk every other match it feels like. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Key is not to engage ranged 1v1. Wait until another team member join in. Preferably a tank since they have stuns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OskarXCI View Post
    Been getting Battle High/Fever as monk every other match it feels like. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Key is not to engage ranged 1v1. Wait until another team member join in. Preferably a tank since they have stuns.
    What do you do when they engage you? I dont try to seek out fights. They usually target me and either kite me or keep attacking as I run away and kill me.
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    Xevia Vanothy
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dresdel View Post
    What do you do when they engage you? I dont try to seek out fights. They usually target me and either kite me or keep attacking as I run away and kill me.
    This tend to work for me when I'm forced to engage ranged 1v1.

    Try to break line of sight and while you do that, build up your greased lightning stacks. Pop Safeguard and, whether it's physical or magic ranged, also use Riddle of Earth or Riddle of Fire respectively. Wait before you use Riddle of Fire until you have Demolish on the target in order to stack the damage increase.
    The more chakra stacks you have beforehand the better. Try not to use Wind Tackle before you engage them. Let them come to you by standing by corners of out of sight. You need your 2 Wind Tackles when they start to run away.

    One normal rotation and a burst should be enough to kill a ranged player. You have more HP than them.

    Unlike The Feast, you are allowed to use potions, Icarus Wings and Regain Feathers (TP restore) in Frontline and Rival Wings.
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