Housing restrictions not fair for individuals.

[Akiza1991]

in my server there is a person who created 2 separate characters and made a fc with the same name and bought a med and large house in the same ward just so they could have a house i am guessing they did this before the update and already had the houses because i think one house per world is in effect now but that is the kind of stuff that isn't right, me personally i do not agree with SE methods on handling this situation but there is nothing WE can do about it but sit back and watch the chaos!!

Exactly and it’s fucked up that thir thqtncompany who doesn’t address problems right away. I’m an ffxiv player for almost two years and still have no house. This system is just a complete bullshit, it will never get fixed if they keep this up.

[Naouu]

While I agree personal housing restriction is unfair, I do regardless empathise and support the notion of allowing legitimate Free companies first access..

But I can already see people trying to exploit this. The reddit now is selling free company tags instead of actual plots.. and I keep seeing more bootleg duplicate guilds popping up in Limsa,


In the end though, someone was going to still lose out no matter what. While I don't agree with the person who tried to argue "wants" vs "needs" when it comes to FC's vs personal housing as this is fairly anecdotal, I do feel the overall increased benefits of a potentially large group of players in a FC do outweigh those of a single person that would reap far less. That and there are some alternatives available to personal housing, such as FC rooms and apartments.

Housing is a big deal to me and i only ever just wanted a small plot, from anywhere, any quality for my main.. but I can wait my turn and just see how things roll out T-T

[Besame]

The problem with the housing change that most people I think have the biggest problem with is that individuals were allowed to relocate at patch.

I think it's unfair that individuals that already owned a house only had to compete with FCs and no other individuals for brand new plots. To individuals the system they put up only rewards current house owners for already having something 'exclusive' and seems more like a punishment to people that have nothing to begin with. I understand current owners already fought their battle for a house, but obviously they already won it and have a house unlike a majority of people that were screaming about the housing issue after 4.1.

Relocation was for players that put their time in stuck in a small or a less desirable location. I see that new buyers all want med and large it seems. Put your time in with a small in whatever location like others did and make changes later.

[HoloKraft]

. While I don't agree with the person who tried to argue "wants" vs "needs"

I get where these FC players are coming from, but I do find it horrible that they feel the need to attack and belittle independent owner's for wanting to enjoy the game too.

FCs don't need massive houses to get things done and to house all of their members, as long as they have a house to go to then they shouldn't have priority over independent players.

[HoloKraft]

The reality of the situation today is the system is being exploited by people making small FCs and buying houses while they are limited. Just today I saw a guy paying 50k a person to join their guild for a little while (buy a house) then they could leave.

I ask you... What is right about what is happening here...

[Penthea]

I get where these FC players are coming from, but I do find it horrible that they feel the need to attack and belittle independent owner's for wanting to enjoy the game too.

FCs don't need massive houses to get things done and to house all of their members, as long as they have a house to go to then they shouldn't have priority over independent players.

If people are going to say that fcs get more use out of larger plots...honestly just admit fcs get more use out of every plot, no matter the size. In most cases fcs have more players using the plot than private owners do. Usually several times the amount of private homes. If we really want to hammer in as much use out of the limited plots as possible, then we may as well argue that houses should be a fc feature only.

But this of course would be unfair as in fcs typically only the officers have furnishing permissions. You can't compare furnishing a house and garden to a fc room. So the option for being a private owner also exists so that players don't get punished for not leading a fc.

I support fcs getting first dibs in new wards, at least sometimes, as it is fact that they get more use out of a plot. But I also support private homes so that individuals can have as much fun furnishing as fc officers do.

[Elamys]

FCs don't get any more use out of a large plot than they would any other size plot, unless you really want to count the extra two gardening plots. I'm not sure what this push for keeping larges for FCs only is about.

[LadyKairi]

The reality of the situation today is the system is being exploited by people making small FCs and buying houses while they are limited. Just today I saw a guy paying 50k a person to join their guild for a little while (buy a house) then they could leave.

I ask you... What is right about what is happening here...

There was someone in novice network paying 101k to 3 sprouts to join their fc so they could buy a house..

[LunaP]

Another issue that some people may be missing is that while yes many smaller servers ( less populated ) have a flurry of houses available atm due to this, the much larger populated servers fill up within minutes after the patch, leaving a select handful leftover, and those that do make it to when they open them to personal housing will be fought over given the amount still waiting. Given the way things happened it looks more like SE waited till the last minute to throw more houses vs taking some time to look into the situation. Back in 2.4 they even promised to design a better system improving this, and it was never brought up again by them despite community questioning, same happened in 3.x then again in 4.1

There's a multitude of ways they could go about this making it better, bandaids aren't one of them especially when you keep trying to stack them. What kills me is the discord that it causes in the community, when finally 1 area gets addressed while others are left in the dark then people start becoming divided and arguments turn into fights and debates no longer happen as people are to irritated to talk it out. The more people fight the less work SE has to do when people are defending 1 side only without acknowledging that an issue is indeed present.

I'm happy for those FC's that have waited so long, it sucks about the server errors that some got to and still missed out. For those on smaller servers, you'll probably get your houses, for those of us on larger servers, I'm curious if SE even thought about the populations that would be affected by this, in one scenario they could have boosted based on population vs as 1 global change, given that the housing systems are on the servers vs their own like they should have done ages ago ( even mentioned at one point ) I do note that people have suggested moving servers, and for some that is an option but for those that have their friends, FC's and or just group's its harder, given that cross server parties are the only thing that allow people to sync up time to time, so please do keep that in mind when making the argument, we're not here to say its the end of the world because of the lack of housing, just people have the right to voice themselves ( As long as within reason )

Look whats happenned, a huge majority of feedback is on reddit now, especially given the hype about mod's swinging ban hammers on those that do speak up a lot, makes me question IF SE bothers to read it (reddit threads) and only focuses on the forums here where the voice isn't AS loud given the segregation caused by all of this....-sighs-

Anyone remember the event in 2.55?








What happened to this? Content wise we're progressing but despite a lot of feedback for a lot of things , even when SE responds, why is it usually just DC vs action? I honestly wish we could all be happy but given the track record that hope fades day by day.

FFXIV has many great features, just support is not one of the stronger ones. Though then again, we are the western audience and not the original, so there's always that to think about I guess too.... given that we mostly only have a translation team that works on the NA stuff, that goes into detail on the amount of feedback they can provide at times, while on the JP forums I'm sure they have a much larger footprint.

[Tridus]

Maybe those individuals would actually rather play solo in their own fc, than be in an fc with a lot of other people. Social anxiety is a thing that exists. Now I'm not saying they're definitely not flippers, because I'm sure there are some. But there are some folks out there that just want to keep to themselves.

And why are they more entitled to a house than other individuals, who are currently locked out from buying? People gaming the system because "social anxiety" are still gaming the system and getting an unfair advantage.